Xantia frozen brake when left overnight

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Xantia frozen brake when left overnight

Post by c.morewood »

Recently my Xantia's front brakes have not released first thing in the morning as I'm moving off and I have to rev the engine to break the hold. Everything seems fine/normal after that until the next morning.
Has anyone experienced this before? What was the solution?
Thanks
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Post by spider »

I would guess the pads are just sticking in their carriages.

I'd be tempted to remove the pads, clean them up especially where they fit into the carriage and also clean out the carriages carefully, then a little bit of suitable (copper grease) anti-seize applied (to the edges of the pads where they sit in the carriage, not the friction material lol)

Rebuild and see if that helps. Costs nothing apart from a bit of time.

I should point out I've never worked on a Xantia, I am aware they have the handbrake operating on the front wheels though. I guess the same principle applies to rear disc where they do not have separate handbrake shoes (ie: an extra lever to mechanically 'push' the pads)
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Post by HDI »

There is also a possibility that one or both of the cables have a cracked outer plastic cover, this will allow moisture in and the cable will freeze.
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Post by Gingerposer »

Could just be the pads freezing onto the discs due to the severe cold. Try just leaving the car in gear overnight instead of applying the brake.
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Post by VertVega »

HDI wrote:There is also a possibility that one or both of the cables have a cracked outer plastic cover, this will allow moisture in and the cable will freeze.
My votes also goes for this :roll: Especially right side cable and check for cracks around the first loop.
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Post by c.morewood »

Thanks for the advice guys.. just wondered if it was a common problem.. its not the freezing weather as this has hapened very occcasioally when the car is left when I'm away on holiday.
I'll give the pads and calipers a good clean on my next days off.
Thanks again
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Post by c.morewood »

It was the LH brake cable starting to fray as it turns round the suspension strut.. but trying to find the correct LH cable was interesting.. even GSF didn't have one.. eventually got a long one (1.3m )from EBay.. on the basis that it can't be too short.
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'97 Xant 1.9TD 20k Est
'94 Fiat TipoTd 40K

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Post by HDI »

Thats very common, mainly caused by someone not pulling the cable away from the strut and disconnecting it from the caliper before a pad change, cable is then kinked and eventually frays or even breaks.
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'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped :( )
& a couple of Peugeots !
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