c5 info required

mm1 · Post by **mm1** » 09 Oct 2010, 11:11

im looking for some info on a c5 that im looking at at the moment.its a late 08 model,1.6hdi.is it a good buy or what.has this model got the FAP,particulate filter,dmf,anti pollution faults and all those other things that can go wrong.some advise is greatly appreciated.

cachaciero · Post by **cachaciero** » 09 Oct 2010, 19:04

That's a C5.5, a bit new for most of the users of this forum I suspect and a bit new for anyone who has got one to have discovered the upsides and downsides.
As regards equipment fit that will likely depend on trim level to some extent, go into a Citroen dealership and pretend you want to buy one I'm sure they will tell you what it has

. One thing it will have is a DMF and it will almost certainly have a FAP.

cachaciero

Citroenmad · Post by **Citroenmad** » 10 Oct 2010, 09:53

The new C5 is very nice, though the fact its a saloon would put me off. Anyway, the 1.6HDi is a good engine, yes it has a FAP and a DMF, however your going to find that with most cars now, especially diesels.

If buying that id want a years warranty, hopefully the place your thinking of buying one offers this. Its peace of mind and as its a costly car which may well prove costly to fix id be insisting on that.

Hopefully with such a recent car you will have little or no problems, but a 2 year old car can have just as many problems as a 10 year old car.

I certainly wouldnt be put off a new C5 through the DMF and FAP alone, the C5 2 (or facelift) is fitted with the same 1.6HDi and few problems have been reported with that. The only bad thing ive heard is them going through turbos if they stuck to the long service intervals. Servicing at 10K is much preffered to 20K and the turbo will thank you for it.

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » 10 Oct 2010, 16:15

mm1 wrote:.its a late 08 model

I think that by 2008 C5's only had hydropnuematic suspension on the Exclusive models. VTR's and below had steel springing.

bencowell · Post by **bencowell** » 10 Oct 2010, 16:18

The current shape 2.2 HDI VTR had spheres, as did all the Exclusive models.

Interesting to see that Ford have put the revised 2.2 into the Mundaneo and now have 200bhp. Now that with a manual gearbox would get my vote.

mm1 · Post by **mm1** » 10 Oct 2010, 18:26

thanks lads for all the replies.had only heard bout this car through a friend.i saw it today and it is actually the older model c5 and not the new shape,is that better or worse?its early 08.

cachaciero · Post by **cachaciero** » 10 Oct 2010, 18:56

mm1 wrote:thanks lads for all the replies.had only heard bout this car through a friend.i saw it today and it is actually the older model c5 and not the new shape,is that better or worse?its early 08.

Well it's a "proper" C5, it will have hydro pneumatic suspension and as it's the mk2 version of an established design one assumes (hopes!) that the common problems found on MK1's will have been sorted.

cachaciero

mm1 · Post by **mm1** » 10 Oct 2010, 20:21

at the risk of sounding like a rite dope,whats hydo pneumatic suspension?

bencowell · Post by **bencowell** » 10 Oct 2010, 20:55

The old shape 08 reg model you're looking at is one of the last off the production line and had benefitted from several improvements so should be as good a car as the French can make.

When I bought my 56 reg C5 I rang the indie and asked if he could take a look to check its all in order, he said no point as the only thing that breaks often are the swivelling headlights on the exclusive model.

bencowell · Post by **bencowell** » 10 Oct 2010, 21:06

Hydropneumatic suspension uses balls filled with high pressure nitrogen instead of shock absorbers and springs.

See http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-c ... /c5-4.html for a diagram and several more pages of information

Post by **Paul-R** » 10 Oct 2010, 21:06

Hydropneumatic - there are no traditional metal coil (or even leaf!) springs or shock absorbers on the car. The corners of the car are connected through pipes in which liquid (the hydro) is squirted from one to another as the wheels go up and down.

The spring equivalent is provided by spheres which have compressed nitrogen (the pneumatic) in them. The shock absorber function is provided by very small holes which resist the flow of the liquid.

By pumping more fluid in you can alter the height of the vehicle which means that the car can be made to have self-levelling characteristics.

mm1 · Post by **mm1** » 11 Oct 2010, 11:19

thanks again lads for all the replies.sounds like a fairly sound buy so.what be a reasonable price for that car,bareing in mind its in ireland.

Citroenmad · Post by **Citroenmad** » 11 Oct 2010, 20:48

That is a very late facelifted C5, I can't say ive seen many 08 plate previous C5s. Though it could well be a 57? And yes, its the 'proper C5'. If it had been a later car, the new shape C%, it would have coil springs - much less interesting!

Also, its worth noting, that all automatic new shape C5s have hydropneumatic suspension.

What spec is it? Its a 1.6 so its either an LX, Design, VTR or VTX+. Neither had the turning lights as standard, so unless it has an option pack it wont have them. The most popular spec is the VTR, which is nicely specc'd, dual zone climate, cruise etc.

C5s are excellent value for money, though its hard to value it as you have not stated its mileage or spec. Look on autotrader for similar cars to see its price is reasonable.

Hydropneumatic suspension is Citroens trademark, developed in 1954 it has been on the go since, fitted to the bigger Citroens to provide unmatchable ride and handling. Its one of the reasons we drive Citroens.

C5s are toned down, as earlier cars had suspension, brakes and steering all powered by the hydraulic system. DS models with the semi auto gearbox even had the gearbox linked to that system too. C5s have normal brakes, which are intended to make the car safer, the brakes are excellent though. C5s suspension is very maintenance free, spheres seem to last nearly a lifetime and few issues have been reported.

Once you've had one, you will wonder how people manage on bits of coiled metal and some basic dampers.

Post by **myglaren** » 11 Oct 2010, 22:35

In comparison with earlier hydropneumatic Citroens, (GS, BX & Xantia) I find the C5 rather hard but without fail, passengers all comment on what an excellent ride it is compared to their own cars, ones riding on helical bits of steel

As Chris says, perhaps the best way to get an indication of current value is to look in Autotrader.

Kowalski · Post by **Kowalski** » 12 Oct 2010, 20:07

bencowell wrote:The current shape 2.2 HDI VTR had spheres, as did all the Exclusive models.

Current shape? The 2008 onward C5 definately only has hydropnuematic suspension on the exclusive models.

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