Xantia key lost - new key doesn't start car.

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Xantia key lost - new key doesn't start car.

Post by aerodynamica »

A friend of a friend lost the ignition key to a Xantia 1.8 petrol. I think he has got one from a dealer but it will not allow the engine to start.

I think the starter turns over but perhaps the ignition needs a signal from the transponder in the key?

How can you get around this?

Any help greatly received!

Graeme
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Post by CitroJim »

Hi Graeme,

If it's a MK2 then the key needs the transponder chip and this needs programming. For this you'll need the PIN number that came with the car and a Lexia.

Does the immobiliser light in the tacho go off when you switch on the ignition and try a start?

If you don't have the PIN (it comes on a credit card) then you'll have to get it from a dealer after giving the car's VIN and proof of ownership.

It can get expensive.
No real way to bypass the immobiliser on a MK2.

This does not apply to a MK1.
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previous convictions: totaling 52litres of LHM in one go:
1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda'
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Post by aerodynamica »

Cheers Jim, I'll look into it. I don't know if I can get a Lexia though - might be able to source one.

All depends on if the PIN is with the car!
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Post by myglaren »

For someone to do a Lexia diagnostic and reprogram your keys, look here.

You are quite fortunate in having two close at hand :)
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1968 ID19B 'Old Polly' Stellar white
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker Silver
1992 XM 2.0 SEi Turbo Manual Anthracite Grey
1982 CX 20 Pallas 'Old Goldy'
1993 XM 2.1 SD Auto Light blue
1993 Xantia 1.9 TD SX Mk1 Sinker light Blue
1982 BX 16 TRS 'Cyril' Vallelunga Red
1995 Xantia 1.9 D SX Auto Dark green
1977 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Aphrodite' Regatta Blue
1982 GSA Pallas SE Silver Pearl
1980 CX 2000 Reflex Vallelunga Red
1978 CX 2400 Pallas C-Matic 'Prometheus' Midnight blue
1984 BX 14E 'Cecil the slugmobile' Maroon
1987 Fiat Panda 'the mighty panda'
x 98

Post by aerodynamica »

Ah thanks - DHallworth in Glasgow! I am certain I've chatted with him before as I recognise the name.

Well I only hope this PIN number is available.
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Post by DHallworth »

If you can get the PIN code then feel free to give me a shout.

I'd probably need someone from here who has used the Lexia before to give me a heads up on how to do it though!

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Post by citronut »

yep Dave
you go into the learning section on the LEXIA, i cant remember exactly were you find it , but its in there somewere :oops:

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Post by CitroJim »

citronut wrote:yep Dave
but its in there somewere :oops:
I think you'll find it in the Replacement Parts menu, the same place as where you go to flash an ECU.
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Post by citroenxm »

No, I dont think its in there Jim, but even though Ive done it on a HDi im not 100% certain...

I know its called "LEarning" or "Key Learning". The on screen instrctions are reletivily clear..

I managed to add a PLIP for Locking the car with the Lexia, but didn't get as far as getting it to start the car...

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Post by citronut »

ooooh FLASHING!!!!!!!! E C U Jimmy

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Post by CitroJim »

citronut wrote:ooooh FLASHING!!!!!!!! E C U Jimmy
I just knew that would elicit a comment from you Malcolm :lol: :lol:

Paul, thanks. I'll have to go and fire up and find it. Got me all curious now...
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