Cigarette Lighter not working

Penguin · Unread post by **Penguin** » 17 Aug 2010, 13:19

Afternoon chaps.

My cigarette lighter doesn't work anymore and there is no illumination around it either. I have checked F19 and it is fine (even cleaned the contacts just to be extra sure). Are these things internally fused as well? If so can it be repaired or can replacements be found? I haven't got around to taking the thing out yet as I thought it best to ask advice before progressing.

Cheers

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 17 Aug 2010, 13:25

The feed for the illumination may just be the bulb gone or the bulb holder has fell out.

You can get replacements but they are usually a fit-once thing, you have to destroy them to get them out, unless you like to spend ages carefully bending thin tin and trying not to break brittle plastic

Get access to it, and check its actually plugged in. Bear in mind the illumination feed will (probably) be a separate feed anyway. Check for power / earth / illumination feed (check this one with lights on and ign on)

It might have an inline fuse (maybe someone added one) but as far as I am aware they do not normally. Bear in mind I'm used to Peugeot's

If all's well, replace the lighter socket.

Penguin · Unread post by **Penguin** » 17 Aug 2010, 13:33

spider wrote:If all's well, replace the lighter socket.

Are these a universal thing or would I need to get a specific one?

I'm not actually bothered about the illumination but I mentioned it as I think both the illumintaion and 12v supply failed at the same time.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 17 Aug 2010, 15:15

The fuse for the Lighter is RIGHT at the bottom of the Fuses rows... cannot remember what the number is now... Its in a cross row on its own so it can be moved in two positions...

By right at the bottom, I mean with the Flap open, its at the end nearest the hinge of the flap..

paul

Penguin · Unread post by **Penguin** » 17 Aug 2010, 15:47

Ah, I see. I believed the Haynes BOL when it said it was F19 for a pre 98 model. I'm still in with a shout of it being the fuse then.

MJM · Unread post by **MJM** » 18 Aug 2010, 12:48

I don't know about S1 Xantias but on my S2 when the lighter stopped working the first time I found that Citroen had been a bit tight with the wire run between the slide out ashtray/lighter assembly and the fixed car loom. The connections had worked themselves off with the closing and opening of the tray. The second time it happened I made up an extension loom to increase the free play available in the loom and cable tied it so that the connections were unstrained when the tray moved.

Gammy leg · Unread post by **Gammy leg** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:24

I replaced mine with one bought from eBay. Including P&P it was £5.50 and was an original part. It was difficult to remove the original unit from the car without mangling it but as it was u/s it wasn't a major issue.

In my case the removable lighter was knackered rather than the bit stuck in the console although that was becoming encrusted with cremated finest virginia and probably was due expire shortly.

Gammy

MikeT · Unread post by **MikeT** » 18 Aug 2010, 18:48

I think I've got a spare tray with lighter and lamp if you need one.

In contrast to MJM's experience, my MK2 harness is plenty long enough to reach the front of the ashtray when it's extended.

I believe the lamp is powered off a different circuit to the lighter so the fuse may have blown but it won't fix the lamp. And I'm pretty sure the lamp only comes on with the lights?

And yes, it is a right PITA to dismantle, even worse to re-assemble!

Penguin · Unread post by **Penguin** » 23 Aug 2010, 13:43

Thanks for all the replies chaps. Sorry if I seemed ungrateful for not responding but we have been away for a short break. Realised how badly I need to fix this issue as teh Sat Nav kept packing up at the most inopportune moments. Fortunately I took 2 SatNavs, not the ideal solution though.

I will have a go at this at the weekend, weather and wife permitting!

Might be back at you about the spare Mike once I've established my problem.

Thanks again everyone for contributing.

Penguin · Unread post by **Penguin** » 31 Aug 2010, 11:50

Thanks for your help on this one, it was indeed the fuse (in the position stated by Paul NOT the one stated by BOL). Simple fix once I had the correct fuse identified.

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 31 Aug 2010, 12:44

Penguin wrote:... NOT the one stated by BOL...

That does not surprise me

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 31 Aug 2010, 13:02

spider wrote:
Penguin wrote:... NOT the one stated by BOL...
That does not surprise me

The BoL has a reputation to maintain. If snippets of truth started to creep in it would do that reputation no good at all.

It might even get to the point that it would have to be known as the BoT or Book of Truths...

Now that would never do

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 31 Aug 2010, 13:17

CitroJim wrote:
The BoL has a reputation to maintain. If snippets of truth started to creep in it would do that reputation no good at all.

It might even get to the point that it would have to be known as the BoT or Book of Truths...

Now that would never do

In contrast, the late 70's and early 80's ones (I have a couple floating around for Fords etc) are generally excellent. For instance there's several pages going into a lot of detail of the VV Carburettor, rather than just skimping on it as though it was a sealed unit.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 31 Aug 2010, 13:31

Do you have the orange 205 BoL Andy? That's an example of an excellent BoL.

It was replaced by a simplifed red covered one and it lost a good 2/3rds of the detail.

The orange one even went into great gearbox detail.

Similar BoLs were availabe for the BX (Brown) and 405 (Violet) and equally as good.

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 31 Aug 2010, 13:55

CitroJim wrote:Do you have the orange 205 BoL Andy? That's an example of an excellent BoL.

It was replaced by a simplifed red covered one and it lost a good 2/3rds of the detail.

The orange one even went into great gearbox detail.

Similar BoLs were availabe for the BX (Brown) and 405 (Violet) and equally as good.

I don't have a 205 one at all

, I do have (was given it years ago) the orangery XUD manual, which is quite detailed.

I do have a violet 405 manual too (never owned a 405) but its for petrol models only up to 92 (so the earlier pre-facelifted ones)

I do know well what you are referring to regarding detail level though.

, its easy to look at a new one and compare to an older one to see.