Car always thinks its open...
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Car always thinks its open...
After i replaced the dash on the Activa after the matrix job my car now thinks a door is ajar. If i leave the lights on i get a beep thats picthed slightly different from normal and if i then open a door the pitch changes to the correct one.
is there something i have missed during my reconnection sequence after replacing the dash??
Also does anyone know what color the connector blocks are for the back of the child window lock switch, the alarm internal sensor button and the front foglights at all as i have 3 buttons and 4 connectors and the pinouts are the same on 3 of the connectors...
is there something i have missed during my reconnection sequence after replacing the dash??
Also does anyone know what color the connector blocks are for the back of the child window lock switch, the alarm internal sensor button and the front foglights at all as i have 3 buttons and 4 connectors and the pinouts are the same on 3 of the connectors...
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Will,
Normally, if you look at the nautral "lie" of the harnesses, that'll show to which switches they should go. Over time the wires assume a particular characteristic pattern, a "memory" if you like that takes time to erase. This should help identify which is which.
The only other way, without going ad disassembming a dash, is to note wire numbers and match those up.
The rear electric window cutout switch should have wire numbers 61xx on it, alarm switch should have 86xx and foglights 2xxx numbers..
Normally, if you look at the nautral "lie" of the harnesses, that'll show to which switches they should go. Over time the wires assume a particular characteristic pattern, a "memory" if you like that takes time to erase. This should help identify which is which.
The only other way, without going ad disassembming a dash, is to note wire numbers and match those up.
The rear electric window cutout switch should have wire numbers 61xx on it, alarm switch should have 86xx and foglights 2xxx numbers..
Jim
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I'll get some on order, one for clock and 2 for dash. Some of the light holes had rubber grommets in them, ie for the side lamps and for the cat overheating light as well...
There is also one of a wheel with arrows around it. is this for traction control on some models?
Also still cant find out why the car thinks a door is open. I have tried all the doors and the boot and the fault is still there.
Is there a diagram of how the wiring works to sens a door is open as i think when i've put the dash back in i must have shorted something?
Thanks,
will
I'll get some on order, one for clock and 2 for dash. Some of the light holes had rubber grommets in them, ie for the side lamps and for the cat overheating light as well...
There is also one of a wheel with arrows around it. is this for traction control on some models?
Also still cant find out why the car thinks a door is open. I have tried all the doors and the boot and the fault is still there.
Is there a diagram of how the wiring works to sens a door is open as i think when i've put the dash back in i must have shorted something?
Thanks,
will
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Will,
I'm in gainful employment at the moment so no access to my diagrams..
As soon as I'm home I'll have a look...
Confirm it's the early Activa with the foglight switches on the dash buttons rather than stalks.
I'm in gainful employment at the moment so no access to my diagrams..
As soon as I'm home I'll have a look...
Confirm it's the early Activa with the foglight switches on the dash buttons rather than stalks.
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Plugs have a Coloured DOT on them corresponding to the correct switch it should connected too!!
So there isn't really supposed to be any confusion, however, ive had trouble disguinguising a DOT to a correct plug..
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So there isn't really supposed to be any confusion, however, ive had trouble disguinguising a DOT to a correct plug..
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Got the plugs nearly sorted now bar the last 2 which im sure 1 is a spare for something...
Yes Jim its an early/late activa with fogs on buttons not on stalks
Im sure there are now 2 conenctors that won't be connected, 1 is for aircon, this goes to the right of the column, and a second im sure is for feature which escapes me now but goes onto the small piece of plastic just above where teh fusebox and manual sit. on cars without buttons here there are plastic conenctors to push the spare connectors onto but its really annoygin that this extra feature is escaping me now
The change in pitch for the door warning is telling me somethign is shorted somewhere or not connected the right way round
Yes Jim its an early/late activa with fogs on buttons not on stalks
Im sure there are now 2 conenctors that won't be connected, 1 is for aircon, this goes to the right of the column, and a second im sure is for feature which escapes me now but goes onto the small piece of plastic just above where teh fusebox and manual sit. on cars without buttons here there are plastic conenctors to push the spare connectors onto but its really annoygin that this extra feature is escaping me now
The change in pitch for the door warning is telling me somethign is shorted somewhere or not connected the right way round
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Hi Will,
I've not forgotten
I'm just scanning the circuit now. There is no relation at all between the lights on bleeper and the dashboard switches at all.
The only switch that could possibly have an effect is the hydractive switch and that's in the console
Anyway, here's the circuits...
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Circuit
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Harnesses
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Item Locations
Apart from the annoyance, does everything work OK otherwise?
I've not forgotten
I'm just scanning the circuit now. There is no relation at all between the lights on bleeper and the dashboard switches at all.
The only switch that could possibly have an effect is the hydractive switch and that's in the console
Anyway, here's the circuits...
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Circuit
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Harnesses
Early MK1 Lights On Alarm Item Locations
Apart from the annoyance, does everything work OK otherwise?
Jim
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Yeah everything works other than the interior lights being on all the time unless i slide the switches midway between positions or remove the bulbs.
I have also found behind the clock a 4 blade socket on which something must connect. it has 2 green and 2 brown wires, going grn-brn-grn-brn.
Will take a picture and post it up in a bit if it helps as im lost as to what it could be.
Yeah everything works other than the interior lights being on all the time unless i slide the switches midway between positions or remove the bulbs.
I have also found behind the clock a 4 blade socket on which something must connect. it has 2 green and 2 brown wires, going grn-brn-grn-brn.
Will take a picture and post it up in a bit if it helps as im lost as to what it could be.
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Ahh Now we're getting somewhere Will..
The fact the interior lightsvare always on is significant!
The normal cause is a problem in either the ECU (Alarm) under the passenger Seat or the ECU(s) in the rear of the centre console and it can be aas simple as a plug being dislodged.
As you'll have had the console out, worth a good check, along witthe hydractive switch.
Sorry for the late reply, I missed this post first time round
The fact the interior lightsvare always on is significant!
The normal cause is a problem in either the ECU (Alarm) under the passenger Seat or the ECU(s) in the rear of the centre console and it can be aas simple as a plug being dislodged.
As you'll have had the console out, worth a good check, along witthe hydractive switch.
Sorry for the late reply, I missed this post first time round
Jim
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