Hi guys
Having a nightmare with immob on my xsara 2000 1.9 diesel
long story short,I need to disable it at the stop valve on the pump
now i have read the other posts and there is great info about removing the armour etc,but i was hoping not to have to strip the car down..timing belt/pump etc.
I guess what im asking is, Does anyone have anymore info on the wiring to the solenoid/electronics.. does it realy hold the code.Cant it be hotwired.
or Is there a trick to removing the pump.
Any info is greatly appreciated
xsara stop valve immob
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No, sadly not. To get the pump off it will be necessary to remove the timing belt. Don't try any "dodges" it's just too risky.rizlas wrote:is there anything similar for the dw8,Maybe vice grips etc straps whatever
This comes about due to the use of vernier sprockets on the DW8 along with a redesigned cambelt tensioner.
A bit of a backward step really as the XUD system was very good.
A consolation is that once off the car, the Lucas pump is very easy in comparason with the Bosch, to de-armour.
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I'd agree, no idea why they stepped back , perhaps too easy. (off topic you remember 80's fwd Vauxhalls, you could do clutches without removing the gearbox as the input shaft would slide, they stopped that as it was "too easy" for home fixing I'd assume) , I guess all manufacturers want to discourage too much home fixingCitroJim wrote:rizlas wrote:is there
This comes about due to the use of vernier sprockets on the DW8 along with a redesigned cambelt tensioner.
A bit of a backward step really as the XUD system was very good.
I (ages ago) looked at a DW8 but there did not seem to be a way to retro fit the XUD tensioner system to it unfortunately.
Back on topic, this topic will be helpful regarding the actual solenoid needed > http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=30280 , as jackmcl had a bit of fun (for want of a better word) finding a suitable solenoid for the Lucas DW8 pump. The topic is for a 206, however I would expect you will need the same solenoid (same pump really) , last few posts on page two specifically.
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Nothing , same procedure more or less.citronut wrote:im not sure about the pump/imobaliser/armour on the DW8 lump, but it is possible to de/armour the pumps on the XUD's (allbeit fiddly/time cosumming), what if anything is stopping this being done on the DW8 pump
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The problem is getting a stop solenoid to fit as its a deep action type (not phrased that correctly) most will fit but will not 'stop' the flow of fuel.
The topic I linked to (above ^^^) shows there is one suitable but it took him a bit of hunting to find one.
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As far as I know its not possible to get the solenoid part out of the 'module' assembly, its kind of a solid unit.
Do not have one to hand to look , hope that makes sense, its not like the Bosch unit unfortunately.
Do not have one to hand to look , hope that makes sense, its not like the Bosch unit unfortunately.
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Yeah the pump module/soleniod are the same unit so you cant just run an ignition live feed to it like with the old bosch ones, you would need to fit a totaly different solenoid. I have one of the solenoid modules, i'll look it out & post up a pic later.citronut wrote:ok then why cant you just use the existing solenoid, like James Cox377 is going to do with the Bosh pump i de/armoured for him,
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ok thanks wheeler i have not had any dealings with this type as yet,
rizlas wrote
"That looks fairly simple to bypass.
just cut off the electronics box and find the live wire that energizes the solenoid."
the electricary will be in the solenoid head, inside that metal dome, it might be possible to cut the dome off and bypass, dont know if anyone has tried this yet Jim/wheeler??????
regards malcolm
rizlas wrote
"That looks fairly simple to bypass.
just cut off the electronics box and find the live wire that energizes the solenoid."
the electricary will be in the solenoid head, inside that metal dome, it might be possible to cut the dome off and bypass, dont know if anyone has tried this yet Jim/wheeler??????
regards malcolm