Rapid Tyre Wear - Xantia 2 HDi 1999 110bhp

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Rapid Tyre Wear - Xantia 2 HDi 1999 110bhp

Post by citroenxm »

Hi all..

Im not sure whats going on - not even sure if its rapid cornering, but the owner says not.

Firstly, the tracking IS spot on, its been checked and checked again.

Front pair of tyres, lasted about 5 months, and not a lot of miles.. near side worn on outer edge only, quite badly, off side a little but not as bad.

Lower ball joints appear fine, also track rod ends, with no play in them.. drop links are also in good order..

My question is, any one got any other ideas as to possible causes of the rapid wear?? The car is a NON hydractive car too, so that can be ruled out. Local tyre indy sugested possibly car running to high, though the height looks fine to me, andIve not adjusted it at all.

Thanks
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Post by addo »

Overtyred? I've seen this exacerbate edge wear. Other than that, I'd honestly say driving style.
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Post by citroenxm »

The car should have 205 60 15's on her, but is fitted with 195 55 15..

I cant really see narrower tyres causing this - but Im not really a tyre expert..

Id have thought driving style - she likes a bit of "Foot down " style.. :D

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Post by HDI »

What tyres are fitted ?
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec :(
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Post by citroenxm »

See my post above yours!! :lol:


Paul
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Post by HDI »

I meant brand ?
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec :(
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'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP :(
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Post by citronut »

drop links dont cause tyre wear at all because they dont affect the caster/camber or track,

the only other thing i wouls sudgest is arm bush's/P bush and front arm bush,

also lower swivle's can't be discarded unless you have split it from the wishbone so you can have a realy good feel

regards malcolm
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Post by Peter.N. »

Hi Paul

If there is excessive wear on the outer edges its got to be towing in, the only other possible cause could be incorrect camber angle on both wheels - very unlikely

The only other reasons for general wear I can think of are poor quality tyres and/or excessive cornering/braking forces.

I get 30k + from my XM tyres by gentle driving.

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Post by HDI »

I asked about brand of tyre because I used to have the same problem and eventually discovered that Xantia's don't like cheap tyres !!
Lower price tyres typically have less strong shoulders and are susceptible to excessive scrub wear on some cars.
Still not wanting to spend too much on tyres as I run the Xantia on a budget I found that Marangoni suit the Xantia well but are well priced.
Now using '00 Xantia LX HDI, pov spec :(
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Post by low-slow »

driving it in service high or low???


that changes angles
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Post by KP »

What are the strut tops like as i wonder if they could have any bearing on tyre wear??
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Post by Pleiades »

Paul.

Rapid wear to the outside is something that I allways put down to the roundabout syndrome, but you dont live in Milton Keynes do you :wink:

I allways rekon that the Citroen suspension, when in good order, just lets you drive round the roundabouts too fast without realising it.

I have seen Xantias and XM's get through the front nearside tyre very quickly and after checking the joints and geometry, have allways put it down to this.

Regards
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Post by cachaciero »

Does the car drive straight? or does it tend to steer into the curb slightly requiring about 1fingers worth of pressure to keep it straight?

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Post by Peter.N. »

I've got two XMs that do, both tend to wander into the middle of the road, can't find any reason for it but they don't wear the tyres out :D
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Post by Brigsygtt »

Check the tca bushes, mine wore the outer edge off the tyres when they needed changing.
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