Can't remove Xantia rear spheres...
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Can't remove Xantia rear spheres...
Hi,
I know this has probably been answered before but the search isn't working for me, just hangs on waiting for page (might be the internet connection here in spain).
Got the car up on axle stands and have tried removing rear spheres with system pressurised using my homemade tool, and banging the tool's arm with a mallet. Trouble is each whack is moving the sphere and its mounting bit by bit until it's bending the bracket around the sphere mounting. Always had trouble doing rears but won in the end. Not with these! Tried with system depressurised too but it's just mangling the brackets.
Any tips?!
I know this has probably been answered before but the search isn't working for me, just hangs on waiting for page (might be the internet connection here in spain).
Got the car up on axle stands and have tried removing rear spheres with system pressurised using my homemade tool, and banging the tool's arm with a mallet. Trouble is each whack is moving the sphere and its mounting bit by bit until it's bending the bracket around the sphere mounting. Always had trouble doing rears but won in the end. Not with these! Tried with system depressurised too but it's just mangling the brackets.
Any tips?!
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Don't have the wheels off the ground when you first crack the sphere's.
Put the car on high, leave engine running, support the car with a jack just incase it tries to drop.
Load as much weight into the boot as you can.
Slide underneath (not easy if you carry your own fuel tank like me )
Use the tool to crack the spheres off just a turn or so, then get out from under the car.
Rest the back of the car on axle stands, set it on low, depressurise, screw the spheres off by hand.
Put the car on high, leave engine running, support the car with a jack just incase it tries to drop.
Load as much weight into the boot as you can.
Slide underneath (not easy if you carry your own fuel tank like me )
Use the tool to crack the spheres off just a turn or so, then get out from under the car.
Rest the back of the car on axle stands, set it on low, depressurise, screw the spheres off by hand.
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James.
Yes they can be a bit stubburn, but dont give up, they will give in, (honest)
What you need to do is this....
Put the car on high as normal and get some stands is ready, (I am allways using a ramp so it's a bit easier)
Using a drift, a large diamiter punch (I use a brass one about an inch and a half round)
Put the drift up against the suspension cylinder as if you are trying to thump the sphere threads.
Give the drift a good hard thump with a heavy hammer.
This will crack the corrosion joint between sphere and cylinder.
The sphere should now come off as normall.
Regards
Martin.
Yes they can be a bit stubburn, but dont give up, they will give in, (honest)
What you need to do is this....
Put the car on high as normal and get some stands is ready, (I am allways using a ramp so it's a bit easier)
Using a drift, a large diamiter punch (I use a brass one about an inch and a half round)
Put the drift up against the suspension cylinder as if you are trying to thump the sphere threads.
Give the drift a good hard thump with a heavy hammer.
This will crack the corrosion joint between sphere and cylinder.
The sphere should now come off as normall.
Regards
Martin.
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Thanks for the advice. Once the wheels were on the ground with a jack and stands underneath for safety but not taking any weight, the sphere mountings no longer moved in the slightest, allowing me to crack them after a fashion.
I never realised the wheels needed to be on the ground to do this job - at least I know for next time!
Back end is now springy instead of rock solid with no movement. Seems a bit slow to spring back up, almost "treacley" in its movement, but least it moves now.
I never realised the wheels needed to be on the ground to do this job - at least I know for next time!
Back end is now springy instead of rock solid with no movement. Seems a bit slow to spring back up, almost "treacley" in its movement, but least it moves now.
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It will be with new spheres as there is now a cavity which need to be filled with LHM, with flat spheres they are already filled with LHM, totally normal and a good sign.JamesQB wrote:Seems a bit slow to spring back up, almost "treacley" in its movement, but least it moves now.
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More a chance of turning them and damaging the pipe into them.XantiaDaveEire wrote:what are the chances of damaging the cylinders if they are not cracked first?
On cassy a mate of mine got his left and right mixed up so tightened the sphere.
Had to get a spare ram and drill several holes into the socket to release the sphere then fit the new ram.
Was not a happy bunny
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we just recived a catalouge from TOOL STATION,
there is a pipe chain wrench which looks a bit like my old STANLEY 30cm wrench,
go to there link below and enter in there search box 56261
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand+Tools/d10
i use my one with a two foot tube on the slid over the handle, and i have owned it for quite some years
regards malcolm
there is a pipe chain wrench which looks a bit like my old STANLEY 30cm wrench,
go to there link below and enter in there search box 56261
http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Hand+Tools/d10
i use my one with a two foot tube on the slid over the handle, and i have owned it for quite some years
regards malcolm
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That looks good Malcolm,
Just as long as contemporary Stanley tools are not made of cheese. I've always associated Stanley with baragin basement stuff where quality is often optional...
At the price it's worth a shot....
I'll stick with my trusty Pleiades tool.
Just as long as contemporary Stanley tools are not made of cheese. I've always associated Stanley with baragin basement stuff where quality is often optional...
At the price it's worth a shot....
I'll stick with my trusty Pleiades tool.
Jim
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Old Stanley stuff was brilliant. That's going back 50 years or so though...
Now why did I assume it was a Stanley one Malcolm? I see now, it's a no-name job.
At that price though, you can hardly go wrong.
See the 900mm one there too? For the very tightest of spheres I guess...
Now why did I assume it was a Stanley one Malcolm? I see now, it's a no-name job.
At that price though, you can hardly go wrong.
See the 900mm one there too? For the very tightest of spheres I guess...
Jim
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