S2 2.1 Exclusive

Old-Guy · Post by **Old-Guy** » 28 Mar 2010, 11:39

Spotted this one on ebay.

I seem to remember reading in posts that some jobs on the 2.1 are less 'easy' than on the 1.9 - it would probably need a cam belt change as well as a set of new spheres (no problem apart from the £150 or so) and an LHM flush.

How hard is the cam belt to do on a 2.1 given that the S2 bodyshell is that bit wider?

I'm tempted to 'save' this one, do the suspension and cam belt, let my son use it for a year or so while I sort it properly before passing it on to another enthusiast.

Any thoughts anyone? Jim?

Guy

XantiaDaveEire · Post by **XantiaDaveEire** » 28 Mar 2010, 12:42

Depends on how much you can get it for,i wouldnt really spend much on it as it has 185,000 on it already and this could put some people off buying it after you have put a few more miles on the clock ,plus the cost of the cambelt,spheres etc not really a wise investment i would say

Dave

Citroenmad · Post by **Citroenmad** » 29 Mar 2010, 10:54

If it goes cheap enough, and i suspect it might with that mileage. Then if your wanting it you would be best keeping it for a good while, as putting a cambelt and spheres on it will be money you wont see again.

Good engines the 2.1, go on and on, not sure what a cambelt is like to do on one. Im on good terms with a local garage who did the Xm for £70 labour. Plus parts which is about £100 or so? Water pump too.

That being a hydractive will have 8 spheres, bear this in mind as its likely if it rides hard then the rest of the spheres will have been neglected too.

Id also like to ask for interior pictures, leather can wear badly at this mileage and if its torn it will cost to fix/replace. It just mentiones a comfy interior, nothing about the condition ...

Only the front wings of a S2 are wider than the S1, so your not really going to be gaining any room in the engine bay.

It would ne nice to get it and use it a bit, though id be tempted to run it until it drops, unless you want to pass it on with good spheres and a cambelt for similar money to what you buy the car for.

Geoff Lebowski · Post by **Geoff Lebowski** » 29 Mar 2010, 17:43

I\'ve never done a 1.9 TD Xantia, but plenty of BX 1.7 TDs. Certainly on the Xantia 2.1, space is more restricted than the BX. I found the auxilliary belt more of a pain to be honest. I seem to remember I removed the aluminium engine mount bracket (the top one) but not sure if this was 100% necessary (not helpful is it?!)

The 2.1TD uses a different tensioner compared to the BX 1.7 TD (again, not sure how it compares to a 1.9 TD) and it may be worth familiarising yourself with the 2.1 TD tensioner before replacing the belt.

If you like, I can post a picture of one.

JohnD · Post by **JohnD** » 29 Mar 2010, 18:45

Geoff Lebowski wrote: I seem to remember I removed the aluminium engine mount bracket (the top one) but not sure if this was 100% necessary

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I used to have a 2.1 Xantia and did the cambelt a couple of times. The support for the top engine mount is also attached down the side of the inner wing. Yes! You need to remove it all otherwise you won't get the top front cover off. Space between engine and wing is tight. Actual belt changing wasn't much different to previous BX and 205's.

Post by **Peter.N.** » 29 Mar 2010, 19:57

I don't think that the 2.1 belt is much more difficult to change than the 1.9, certainly in the XM it isn't and I have done many. The 2.1 is a surperb engine which should give not only better performance but improved economy as well. The only serious problem they they normally ever have is head gasket failure and in my experience that occurs at around 150,000 miles, if its had the gasket replaced - super

Peter

Post by **CitroJim** » 29 Mar 2010, 20:17

I've had both a 1.9TD and a 2.1TD and for my money, nearly every job on a 2.1TD is either the same or easier. The only exception being the head gasket which is an engine out job. I believe it is possible in-situ but a lot easier if you hoike the whole shebang out..

The 2.1TD is the superior engine. I'm wholeheartedly in agreement with you Peter

Post by **Peter.N.** » 29 Mar 2010, 20:27

I have done a head gasket with the engine in situ - I'm still recovering

Post by **CitroJim** » 30 Mar 2010, 10:54

Peter.N. wrote:I have done a head gasket with the engine in situ - I'm still recovering

I can believe that Peter

I find a head on a 1.9TD is struggle enough for me.

I'm firmly of the school of whipping the engine out for all jobs like this. Comes of owning a V6 I guess where (almost) the engine needs to come out just to change the plugs...

I'm joking there but sometimes the amount of struggling you do to do a job avoiding the removing the engine complete is handsomely outweighed by the task of actually removing the engine in the first place.

Makes doing a whole load of value-added jobs (like cambelts) very easy too