Xantia - Broken Air Bag Slip Ring

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Post by swiss_steve » 05 Mar 2010, 12:18

Hi all,

I think I've made a stupid mistake when putting back the steering wheel and getting the Air Bag electrical Slip Ring one revolution our of sync.
At first, all appeared fine after putting the steering wheel back on - until taking the steering to one end of the rack and then the AirBag light came flashing on, immediately. :oops:
Had I got my brain in gear, I should have noticed that the little arrows on the Ring weren't aligned before putting the wheel back on....

Anyway, I shudder to think how much this part would cost at a Main Dealer; does anyone out there know of any potential secondhand source, please? And having never removed one of these Slip Rings, is there any other potential 'surprises' that I should watch out for, or is it simply remove the 3 screws holding it in place, unplug somewhere on the back and replace unit?

All suggestions welcome, many thanks,

Steve

Vehicle: Xantia Mk1 (pre face-lift) 1.9TD Temptation II

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Post by davetherave » 05 Mar 2010, 12:28

Removing the ring is really quite simple, i had to replace mine as mine broke of natural causes!
I think your best bet would be to ring around the scrap yards for a second hand one. thats what i did, and fingers crossed its still working fine!
Good luck!

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Post by xantia_v6 » 05 Mar 2010, 13:36

swiss_steve wrote: Vehicle: Xantia Mk1 (pre face-lift) 1.9TD Temptation II
Does it have a passenger airbag? If so the rotary connector is the same as used on all S2 Xantia.

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Post by swiss_steve » 05 Mar 2010, 14:00

Hi,
Not it doesn't - only a Driver's AirBag. I think the Pax AirBag was on the Mk2's only?...

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Post by quai_de_javel » 05 Mar 2010, 14:59

swiss_steve wrote:I think the Pax AirBag was on the Mk2's only?...
Mk1 had also it. At least in V6.

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Post by swiss_steve » 05 Mar 2010, 15:56

Oh, then sorry for my bad assumption!!

I think I'll be going through the list of Breakers this weekend, then....

Thanks all.

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Post by robert_e_smart » 05 Mar 2010, 16:36

Steve : PM sent

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Post by Old-Guy » 08 Mar 2010, 12:53

Is repair necessary or even wise? Unless it's been replaced, the airbag is now over 10 years old and would almost certainly rupture with nasty consequences if triggered.

Old bags tend to split at the folds when deployed. The flash from the pyrotechnic charge escapes causing burns to the face, neck and any other exposed upper-body skin - burns through thin clothing can also occur. Better than hitting the steering wheel, but very nasty if it was only a minor collision.

I need to take my steering wheel off sometime to sort out why the remote buttons for the radio/CD no longer work - I was contemplating removing the air bag at the same time but I don't know whether this would be an MoT fail (must remember to ask my tame tester).

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Post by RichardW » 08 Mar 2010, 13:04

Air bag not currently tested on MOT. You might get an advisory on the light being on, but then if you disconnect the bag on a MK1, the little red light on the wheel won't work anyway - and it's doubtful the tester would spot it, even if it did!

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Post by swiss_steve » 08 Mar 2010, 13:04

Interesting point... I know pundits say you should test or replace the AirBag after 10 years, but has there really been any extensive testing to prove this assertion is reasonable? Or is it just another way of the manufacturers arbitrarily deciding it needs to be changed, and oh, they also make more money in spare parts.... hmm....

No, despite possible failure of the bag if deployed, I find it distracting to have an amber light flashing on the dashboard for ages (then goes permanently on), and if there is an incident - it might work. I'd rather take that chance by spending a few quid to fix the problem, than take such a risk on one's life. Simple maths and odds I think....

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Post by Clogzz » 08 Mar 2010, 15:12

A label inside the door says that the air bag must be replaced after 10 years.
That was then, and a Peugeot paper since says it’s good for 15 years.

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Post by swiss_steve » 08 Mar 2010, 19:56

An interesting Poll opportunity here - those who drive around in 10 year+ old cars - who replaces their AirBags?...

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Post by Clogzz » 09 Mar 2010, 14:57

Nobody stuck up their hand since. :?
The cost would buy another car, and after 10 years they can say that there aren’t any more.

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Post by swiss_steve » 09 Mar 2010, 15:12

Agreed Clogzz :D

I wouldn't dare ask my Citroen Dealer - my cholestorol level is too high at the moment !

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Post by addo » 09 Mar 2010, 23:37

I would honestly think the engineered textile used for airbags isn't going to suddenly degrade at 87648 hours post-manufacture.

It's probably a very stable textile; certainly some fabrics suffer intrinsic chemical imbalances as evidenced by the change in a garment (colour/strength) when examined after a long period of storage. However, I remain certain that until recall notices start getting mailed out to people by manufacturers, we can rely on the airbags working properly when all else is right.