Genuine Citroen filters?

Ray · Unread post by **Ray** » 10 Jan 2010, 12:33

What companys do Citroen commision to manufacture their 'genuine' filters?
I'm looking for oil , air and fuel filters for 2010 berlingo 1.6hdi and nemo 1.4hdi
Cheers

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 10 Jan 2010, 13:04

I believe Purflux is the company....

GSF normally supply OEM or OEM quality...

Chlorate · Unread post by **Chlorate** » 10 Jan 2010, 13:05

To be honest; most pattern filters are indistinguishable from filters that have "Citroen" printed on them.
Manufacturer-branded filters are essentially the same as what you'd find in Halfords, just with an even bigger price markup.
I've been using Motaquip stuff for a while now, they're cheap and they do the job.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 10 Jan 2010, 13:29

i find GSF sell a cheap french brand unless you specify you want the better quality products, some of the fuel filtters they sell look orible,

i belive Motaquip is part of the PSA group so should be the real macoy, i have always found there prodicts to be of a good quality,

regards malcolm

DickieG · Unread post by **DickieG** » 10 Jan 2010, 13:58

citronut wrote:i belive Motaquip is part of the PSA group so should be the real macoy, i have always found there prodicts to be of a good quality,

Yes Motaquip are owned by PSA.

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 10 Jan 2010, 18:35

Chlorate wrote:To be honest; most pattern filters are indistinguishable from filters that have "Citroen" printed on them.
Manufacturer-branded filters are essentially the same as what you'd find in Halfords, just with an even bigger price markup.
I've been using Motaquip stuff for a while now, they're cheap and they do the job.

Indistinguishable from the outside, but often very different on the inside.

There are many ways in which a pattern oil filter can be different from the original OEM filter. The pattern parts don't always have drainback valves, they don't always have pressure release valves or their valves can open at a different pressure to the original, the filter material can vary in terms of how coarse or fine it is, how thick it is and of course how much of it there is, i.e. filter area can vary. Some of the cheaper ones are not well made.

There is a site where the author bought, disected and reviewed a load of different brands of oil filters.

http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilters/

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 10 Jan 2010, 18:45

It`s true not all filters are the same. We are lucky that we can buy the actual OEM Purflux filters for our Citreons at very reasonable cost. Original Honda filters............how much?

Chlorate · Unread post by **Chlorate** » 10 Jan 2010, 19:10

It's annoying when you have to use manufacturer branded filters etc on a car that's under warrenty.
I cringed when the guy at Kia told us that when mum bought her horrible plasticmobile.

Xantidote · Unread post by **Xantidote** » 10 Jan 2010, 22:26

Like Kowalski said, I bought Halfords own oil filter for MGB, moons ago, and brgs rattled on start up, so then fitted Unipart filter, and the rattle gone again - no drain-back valve

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 11 Jan 2010, 12:48

I investigated that on a previous vehicle and took the filters off (2) and discovered no oil in them overnight

This is why the oil light stayed on for about 8 secs on startup .Changing to high quality filters (Cummings Fleetgaurd) it went off in 1 sec. It`s not an issue if filter hangs upside down on a car and is therefore always full of oil.

Nevertheless there is the quality of paper filtering to consider. Chlorates post is not wrong though. I have bought Renault boxed to find a simple Fram on the filter........it`s a minefield

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 11 Jan 2010, 13:13

lexi wrote:I investigated that on a previous vehicle and took the filters off (2) and discovered no oil in them overnight This is why the oil light stayed on for about 8 secs on startup .Changing to high quality filters (Cummings Fleetgaurd) it went off in 1 sec. It`s not an issue if filter hangs upside down on a car and is therefore always full of oil.

Nevertheless there is the quality of paper filtering to consider. Chlorates post is not wrong though. I have bought Renault boxed to find a simple Fram on the filter........it`s a minefield

Putting the oil filter upside down may stop it from emptying draining its content into the sump at startup, but what it won't do is prevent the oil galleries from emptying themselves. The oil pump will pump oil through the oil filter, through the oil galleries all way to the top of the block and into the head. The anti-drainback valve should keep the oil galleries and the filter filled, so that as soon as you start cranking the engine, oil starts coming out of the oil galleries into the bearing surfaces rather than having to wait for it to make its way up. Until the oil galleries are all pretty much full you won't have much oil pressure, the air that escapes doesn't have the same viscosity as the oil.

lexi · Unread post by **lexi** » 11 Jan 2010, 14:24

Yes good point. To add to the scenario some vehicles have a drainback valve in the oil pump itself.