407 sw

sportingfiat · Unread post by **sportingfiat** » 06 Jan 2010, 21:17

hey all been looking at these for a while real smart and loads of kit but cheap at half the price.

looking at a 2.0 hdi exclusive i think it was

Is there any major problems with them or do they just depreciate like a brick ? ?

cheers

andy

uncle buck · Unread post by **uncle buck** » 06 Jan 2010, 23:51

Lovely looking car But....they suffer real problems with the particle filter (FAP filter) just Google "407 fap filter problems" & all will be reveled.

Cheers.

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 06 Jan 2010, 23:52

One of my favourite cars the 407, very nice, smart cars, look great.

Cant really comment on them for reliablity as ive not owned one, though i plan to at some point. However it uses the same engine as the facelift C5s and a lot of the dash and electronic bits too. We have a 2.0HDi C5 with the 138 bhp engine which im sure will be the one in the 407 SW your looking at. Its a fantastic unit, excellent pull, fantastically smooth and refined and great on fuel too, so far we are all very impressed with ours, but we have only had it two months so cant comment agian on reliability.

They do lose their value but so long as your not paying over the odds for it and its not almost new you should be ok to not lose too much money on it. My advice would be to choose one around 2005/2006 year as that will lost the bulck of its value now, probably be worth somewhere in the region of £4-5K depending on milage? Best time to buy a car in my opinion, when they have lost most of what they will lose.

Ive not heard anything too drastic about reliability on the 2.0HDi 16v, they are used in many many cars, Focus, Mondeos, and i think some Volvos to name just a few. So they must be fairly reasonable

Yes they can have fap filter issues, but usually when the fluid is left to run out or the car doesnt get good runs to allow the FAP to work. I give ours a good blast every now and again in the hope that it will help keep this at bay. Ive just had a quick search there and found some issues, but not things ive not heard before. Though that is one reason i prefer the earlier C5s with the 2.0 8v HDi engine, as its non FAP

But, for goodness sake, dont look on the honest john forum, especially at the C5s, it will put you off buying any car made after the mid to late 1990s

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 07 Jan 2010, 09:55

do they also have that expencive DUAL MASS FLYWHEEL,

regards malcolm

Citroenmad · Unread post by **Citroenmad** » 07 Jan 2010, 12:50

I know, that can cause problems too. Though many many modern cars do have a DMF now, event a lot of petrol models. Something we just have to get used to i guess.

sportingfiat · Unread post by **sportingfiat** » 07 Jan 2010, 18:46

got a dual mass on my mg ztt at moment cost nearly a grand last year for a clutch

seems to be the going rate for most new cars now though

spider · Unread post by **spider** » 07 Jan 2010, 19:11

Given the (relatively) short life and expense of a DM flywheel, if it was me I'd see if its possible to use a more conventional one from an earlier model, regarding the 407, perhaps one from a late 406 could indeed fit.

Just a random thought, although I do remember reading (possibly not on here) about a year ago, someone fitted a flywheel off another model onto their 307HDI...