Hi all happy new year,How do you start a cold c5 hdi?
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Hi all happy new year,How do you start a cold c5 hdi?
Just a quick one how do you start a c5 hdi in the cold is there a methord? I just jump in and turn the key and it takes a bit to start and it smokes of un burnt diesel i notice there is no glow plug light to tell you when to turn the key, Is there another way to start i.e. turn the key slightly to start and hold before going to start?
Thanks all Andy
Thanks all Andy
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Does your external temperature read correctly? If the ECU thinks that it's in the middle of a heatwave then it'll be loathe to apply the glow plugs.
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HDI glow plugs are only activated for a few seconds when the temp is freezing or below. For example , it was -3 when I started mine today and the glow symbol was only lit for 2-3 seconds. It will start but in cranks more than normal , so what I do is turn the key to the ignition on stage twice , then it tends to fire normally. Another tip is to depress the clutch when very cold starting , this removes the drag of the gearbox and gives the starter motor and battery an easier time !
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Have to say I don't know on a C5 but there is on a Xantia HDI.
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My past Citroens :-
'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
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'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
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My Xantia cranks a little more when really cold like this morning , but when it fires it runs clean immediately with virtually no smoke. I've always been surprised just how clean it is on start up , there is no smoke at all at normal temperatures.
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'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
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'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
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'00 Xantia SX HDI, now dead due to accident
'99 Xantia HDI 110 Exclusive, RIP
'97 Xantia TD SX
'96 Xantia TD LX
'96 ZX TD
'89 BX TD
'88 AX GT
'79 CX2400 Pallas (scrapped )
& a couple of Peugeots !
Direct injection engines can generally start without glowplugs even in cold. Whereas an IDI wont. The plugs on Hdi will be on seconds and then hit the key. Apart from giving you an easier start they will go a long way to a clean warm up which is healthier for everything.
Many people with DI engines don`t know their glow plugs aren`t actually working because of this. If you put a meter on them you can see when they come on......remain on and then go off. It`s only a hunch but the DI plugs may have a shorter life in the more hostile engine environment of HDI. Glowplug relays could be problem here too.
Many people with DI engines don`t know their glow plugs aren`t actually working because of this. If you put a meter on them you can see when they come on......remain on and then go off. It`s only a hunch but the DI plugs may have a shorter life in the more hostile engine environment of HDI. Glowplug relays could be problem here too.
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There should be a glow pulg light yes, it should light just to the left and bottom of the speedo. Though i rarely see mine on and only for a few seconds when it is.
They do seem to take a bit longer to fire up in the cold so i have turned the ignition on twice and found that does make a difference.
They do seem to take a bit longer to fire up in the cold so i have turned the ignition on twice and found that does make a difference.
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To confirm, the C5 does has a glow plug light. Its similar to an electronic symbol representing a coil if you're used to reading circuit diagrams.
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