Xantia starting problem

yorkie · Unread post by **yorkie** » 20 Jul 2009, 23:08

I have a 98 xantia 1.9 td, which when starting from cold is a pig!! Turns over and over, then eventually goes, throwing white/grey smoke out!
When its warm it starts fine. Glow plugs are fairly new, just flew through an mot emissions check, so am stuck!

Thanks

Sl4yer · Unread post by **Sl4yer** » 20 Jul 2009, 23:27

Sounds like an air leak. No doubt some of the experts will comment soon, but it would help to know which injection pump is fitted (Lucas or Bosch).

James

yorkie · Unread post by **yorkie** » 20 Jul 2009, 23:38

I think its the bosch! Will let you know in daylight

Sl4yer · Unread post by **Sl4yer** » 21 Jul 2009, 21:32

If it's a Bosch pump, the leak-off pipes will cause starting problems if they admit air. Priming bulbs are also known to fail. On my ZX, the braided pipe from the fuel filter to the pump failed (at a routine service!) and caused some embarrasment once the car had been stood overnight.

James

yorkie · Unread post by **yorkie** » 22 Jul 2009, 00:03

Thanks all. will check tommorrow

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 22 Jul 2009, 07:22

Do also check the blanking cap on the last injector. It can look Ok but account for many air leaks on the leakoff lines...

If it continues despite a good check for air leaks, come back to us...

yorkie · Unread post by **yorkie** » 14 Aug 2009, 21:48

CitroJim wrote:Do also check the blanking cap on the last injector. It can look Ok but account for many air leaks on the leakoff lines...

If it continues despite a good check for air leaks, come back to us...

the blanking cap,is it just a pop rivet? if it is it looks ok!

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 14 Aug 2009, 22:00

No, should be a short black pipe with no hole in the end coming off the last injector (nearest the lhm resevoir).

Are you sure you got the right glow plugs too, as some are designed to heat then switch off once the engine is running, others (the ones needed) are designed to stay on for longer.

yorkie · Unread post by **yorkie** » 15 Aug 2009, 21:02

the glow plugs have been in for ages, 18 months+ the starting problem only started a month ago. once the car is warm it starts ok!

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 15 Aug 2009, 22:37

EVEN though the plugs have been in that long I WOULD check them again!

You've basically answered your own question - if she starts fine when warm, I reckon it could well be a plug or two EVEN if they are only 18 months old - Ive known to fit plugs and have them fail 10 months later!!

It wont be much, TD's dont need much to go...

Paul

Johnny Cogs · Unread post by **Johnny Cogs** » 04 Jan 2011, 16:04

Sorry to drag up an old thread but was aremedy ever found? Was it the glow plugs after all? ta

RaceMouse · Unread post by **RaceMouse** » 10 Jan 2011, 21:52

Greetings from DK,

I had the same problem with my 1996 2.1 TD Xantia (360Kkm).

I changed to glow plugs (2 of them were dead). That didn't help a bit.
I changed the injectors. That didn't help a bit.
I then repaired a cracked fuel hose between the engine and cabin. Fault gone...

/RaceMouse