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The start..

My current runabout was beginning to fail spectacularly, Needed a car to replace it asap. Started looking on ebay & local papers etc for a 306td or 106d, had no luck finding anything half reasonably priced/good nick. The girlfriends dad said why not get an xantia td, cheap & good on fuel so thought why not. I had drove a few of his past/present xantia's & they all seemed ok regardless of mileage. He currently has 3x activa's, (2x ph2, 1x ph1) & a hdi estate.

Seen my xantia on ebay pretty local to me & stuck a daft bid of £330 & won, nowt to lose for the price eh!

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Anyway went down & picked it up, cash exchanged & drove it home. Needed a bit of tlc but for the price seemed good. Apparantly spheres have been recently changed & brakes done which is a bonus.

On first look at the car it needed -

New wheel trims, one missing & crap 5 spoke design.
Airbox renewing, Fibreglass covering a hole at the top :shock: Dodgy drilled base too..
Proper valet, smell of wet dog inside.
Parcel shelf as it was missing.
Central locking plips not working.
Interior lights iffy.
A couple of touch ups to the body work to tidy it up.

On the plus side the engine ran well, everything else felt pretty tight for 146k. Drove it home for 30 mile & all went well.

Next day tried to start it from cold, wouldn't go on the first attempt even after waiting for the glow plug relay to click off. 2nd attempt it stuttered into life with a cloud of smoke, glow plugs shot. I was planning on a full service anyway so got the parts...

Set about changing the glow plugs, took 3 hrs with a variety of tools, not a nice job. Got that sorted & starts really well from cold now.

Next the aux belt started squealing 5 miles later. On closer inspection the belt had jumped a tooth towards the cam belt cover! Belt was worn out & cracked so thought it was the fault. The auto tensioner was sitting on a funny angle with loose bolt, infact snapped. Tried to fit new belt & realized the tensioner was all over the shop. From initially looking at the room to sort this i knew the fun was about to begin :roll:

Got the parts & removed the hp pump & alt to access the tensioner bracket. Not a nice job really took a canny few hours to do. Luckily the remains of the bolt were loose so everything went pretty well. Fitted new belt & ready to roll again. Lost radio code in process but sorted that with help from here :D

Next job was a lhm leak from the 19mm union on the pump, sorted that in ten mins with a new seal. Had ten mins spare so banged the new air box & new filter on. Discovered the airbox was drilled all round the inlet :roll: probably sucking in loads of unfiltered air! Thought the turbo whistle seemed pretty loud. Wish id took a pic of this before binning it, shocking really.

Transferred my ins policy over tonight, the heater blower stopped working, typical. Tomorrows jobs inc oil change, got to love a french car :wink:

Jobs to do up to now -

Fix heater blower, can't be doing with out that.
Change timing belt.
Look at the height adjusters, rear wont rise/fall with citrobotics, im assuming its siezed/white clip popped off.
Re-gas air con. (with weather the way it is this can wait)
Fix plips, new battery's but the plips wont sync to the car even though they work.
New rear tyre n/s as its low, hopefully find a set of activa alloys for it eventually.

Hopefully its going to prove itself to be reliable even though its been problem after problem up to now. Let the fun commence!
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97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
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91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
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Post by CitroJim »

Welcome to the blogs brigsygtt :D :D

So, who's your dad then with all these Activas? He really should be on here :D It woukld not be the first time a father and son post in the same forum. If you should ever look at the BX Club forum (our sister forum) look out for a member called DocChevron1472 and try to work out who his dad is on the same forum...

Looking forward to more instalments and don't forget you can also write about all your other cars too, that R5 GTT sounds tasty!

Id'd be very surprised if your iffy interior light was not the door plungers. If you need the circuits, give me a nudge, I can scan and post them up.
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Ill get some pics of the girlfriends dad's activa's this weekend Jim.

The two ph2's are t reg in the nice red/burgundy with black leather. One is the exclusive model with winter pack. The normal spec needs clutch doing at the moment. The green ph1 has no fancy bits but goes really well, only cost a couple of hundred with failed clutch hydraulics. He managed to repair the hydraulics so turned out well.

Ill get pics of my other toys up, my sleeper van is my fun toy whilst the gtt is under restore. The build thread needs a blog of its own!

The wiring diagrams would be great if you have them, if i get chance i may have a look at it tomorrow :D
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Those Activa's sound very tasty, the MK2 with leahter and winter pack is a rare one indeed.. He was lucky to sort out the clutch hydraulics, that can cost an arm and aleg and is a rotten job to do as well. Mind you, an Activa clutch itself is not a walk in the park either. If he needs some advice, he knows where to come!

To have a girlfriend whose dad is an Activa owner is almost magical.. My daughters are often embarrassed about my addiction to things double chevron :lol: :lol: Our middle daughter will be driving next year and does not want a Xantia :twisted: Too big she says; she wants me to get her a Pug 206...

I've scanned the interior lighting circuit and will post the link to it in your thread on the same subject in the main Citroen forum.

Looking forward to the pictures of the other members of the fleet!
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Post by red_dwarfers »

You know, when you said your girlfriends dad has 3 activas, the member 'handyman' came into my head as I know he has 3 Activas :lol: That would be a coincidence!
Its good to see another blog, its always nice to read about what others are getting up to with their cars.
citrojim wrote:Our middle daughter will be driving next year and does not want a Xantia :twisted: Too big she says; she wants me to get her a Pug 206...
Sorry Jim, but I have to agree with her. A Xantia isn't a good car to learn in :oops: You've got to be a lot more careful because of the long bonnet and saloon styling, and those rather big C pillers. With a smaller car, its also a lot easier to squeeze through potential mistakes.

At least she's started French :D, you never know, she may come around to the idea of hydraulic Citroens :wink:
Maybe photo edit a picture of an idol of her's into a Xantia :lol: Might pursuade her
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My lass drives the activa exclusive as her daily! She hates small cars. loves all the toys/handling but not the poor mpg :lol:

Got the blower sorted on my xantia today, loose connection to the fan so its all good. Cant be doing without heat on these cold days. Also sorted the interior lights, dodgy plunger switch on drivers side & nipped all the connections. Finally feel like im getting on top of the niggly things :D

Give her an oil/filter change, derv filter aswell. Been running about in it today all is going well. Need to do the drop links up front sharpish as there a bit knocky, typical french stuff!

Also tried to sync the plip for central locking, cant get it to work. Both plips work fine when viewed on a camera fone so on the hunt for a new receiver. Got my eye on a set of activa alloys too :wink:
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Post by jgra1 »

good work so far Brigsygtt :)

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Post by CitroJim »

I thought of Handyman as well Kev :lol: Maybe Andmcit has a daughter; he has a few Activas :wink:
red_dwarfers wrote: Maybe photo edit a picture of an idol of her's into a Xantia :lol: Might pursuade her
Somehow I don't think Marie Curie sitting in a Xantia will quite cut it :lol:

Mind you, Hayley from Paramore may just do it... (She does it for me :P )

Yes, good work brigsygtt, coming along nicely now :D
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Been using the xantia for my daily car this week, touch wood there has been no problems up to now :D Drives a lot better than my old clio derv. Also picking up a set of activa alloys this weekend to freshen her up a bit, won them on ebay 8)

Time to update the jobs to do list.

Look at the height adjusters, rear wont rise/fall with citrobotics, im assuming its siezed/white clip popped off - Looking at this when i fit the alloys this weekend.

Re-gas air con. (with weather the way it is this can wait) - Can wait a bit longer :lol:

Fix plips, new battery's but the plips wont sync to the car even though they work - Think i need a new receiver as the plips seem to work ok.

Knocking on front suspension - I think the droplinks are shot, also the o/s bottom balljoint rubber is split, might be the cause.

Replace radio aerial, reception is poor on the move unless i keep it on smooth fm, the reception is fantastic anywhere :lol: Got parts on order..

Tailgate vibrates on idle - think the catch needs adjusting.

Replace o/s cracked wing mirror glass & n/s wing morror cover, its smashed.

So far so good. Hoping to chip at the list this weekend & give it the tart up it deserves on the bodywork side.
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Got my activa alloys on so its time for an update. A mate of mine needed to collect some parts from london at the same time, 620 miles in total last weekend! Had no problems luckily as i forgot to take any tools :lol:

Before i went i fixed the dodgy aerial with a freebie from the scrappy, renault scenic base & super long mast, seems to have sorted it out. Had a carry on fitting it as i dropped the metal disc in the box section, fished it out with a magnet luckily as i could imagine it rattling all the time.

Also have fixed the rattly bootlid. On the journey back i started getting a bit of a wobble on full throttle. Im reckoning the inner cv joints are worn on the shafts, every french car i have owned has done this so another job to add to the list.

A couple of pics, have given it a wash now the snow has gone. Still need to touch up a few bits bit it looks a lot better with the wheels on.

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98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
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Post by Brigsygtt »

205/60/15, assorted cheapo brands but have good tread.

Is this std activa size? The steel rims i took off had 195/65/15.
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Post by Jennie »

Pics of it look nice :D

Tyres are correct, i hope, they are the same size as mine

You want the front inflated to 33psi and the rear to 30psi, not 40 like the guy with the mondeo said
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Post by addo »

Yes, in theory the 205/60/15 has an all-but-identical rolling diameter to the 185/65/15. Miata.net's "tirecalc" program shows the speedo reads 0.9% under previously indicated road speed when you go from 185s to 205s.

Tyre pressure is optimum when the temperature across the tread is evenly graded following a good run of normal driving (not trackwork), indicating best possible contact with the road surface. You can check this with a thermocouple probe or specialised tyre thermometer. I find it varies quite a bit by brand, and would never trust the placard as other than a start point.

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The colour is GRIS GRAPHITE MET, code etwcr. Need to source a touch up pen my local place keep trying to fob me off with meteor grey!

Well today my heater blower packed in again, on a nice icy morning. A combination of blower on & heated rear screen & it all failed to work. Done the 4 pin relay mod as per mandrake's thread & all working again, only took 30 mins to do & the blower works much better than before 8)
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98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
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91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)
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Well time to update the blog. Knocking suspension has been cured by fitting new droplinks. All was going pretty well until today, couple of thousand miles without probs. Went out for a short drive, parked up. Looked out the window ten mins later for no reason & noticed a nice puddle of coolant forming under n/s front.

On inspection rad had sprung a massive leak. Easy job i thought, until i came to those crappy bayonet fittings. Why citroen thought it was better than the old push/clip hose i don't know. After 20 mins messing about with the bottom one i had great satisfaction smashing the plastic rad endcap to bits with a screwdriver to get it out :lol:

Oh well new rad on order, should be here monday. On the plus side the old rad feels about double the weight it should be guess its really silted up.

I also managed to change the accumulator sphere whilst rad is off. The ticking must have been at least once every 5 secs & it looked like it was the original. I attempted to do this last week & snapped 2x chain wrenches! A good few belts with the chisel from the top cracked the rust off today 8)

Also still need to fix the rcl. Has anybody got a working receiver for sale? both plips are working fine, just won't sync for love nor money.
97 Xantia 1.9 td lx with a/c (Daily, 172K, FOR SALE)
98 Xantia Hdi Lx with a/c (105k)
97 Renault Extra (c1j turbo 230+hp, 12.88@106)
91 Renault 5 Gt turbo (68k minter)