My Christmas present to the FCF - Citroen Video Guide no1

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 25 Dec 2008, 11:26

I talked about making a Citroen Video Guide here -
http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=25427

Well I finally got around to doing the first one a few days ago and just uploaded it to You Tube

Editing took a lot longer than I expected

I did film topping up the LHM and Citrobics and was going to put it all in one video but then decided against it. We can then have an entire video dedicated to each section. I'll get around to editing the last two after Christmas

So, go on, put me out of my misery, what do you all think of it?

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ywvLaWTr9yw

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 25 Dec 2008, 14:27

Excellent Kev

Well done! That is a very good guide indeed

Your STOP light takes an age to go out between low and normal

Have you cleaned your filters?

Still, it shows your spheres are all pretty healthy, taking that time to pump up...

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 25 Dec 2008, 14:36

Cheers Jim

citrojim wrote: Your STOP light takes an age to go out between low and normal Have you cleaned your filters?

I thought that was normal

I will have a look at the filters at some point.

When coming down from high to normal, a bit of lever trickery was involved as I still havn't had chance to properly WD40 my front HC, must get around to that soon.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 25 Dec 2008, 14:48

It's not unusual to see a brief appearance of the STOP light Kev, but yours does seem a bit lengthy to me. Mind you, thinking about it, you started up on low, waited for the light to go out and then to normal so under that circumstance, only the accumularor would have been pressurised and moving to normal, all the pressure in the accumulator would rush out to start filling the rest of the spheres. I still would not have expected it to stay on that long though. My activa does briefly on occasions but I cannot recall the 2.1TD doing it at all.

Does the STOP light come on if you drop from high to low and then back up to normal after the car has assumed it's lowest position.

You're right about the early "sinkers" in your video Kev, The pump has a heck of an output. STOP light off in about five seconds and the suspension rises and falls incredibly quickly on the lever. So much so that when I had my first Anti-Sink I thought there was a problem because the suspension took so long to rise from low...

Toby_HDi · Unread post by **Toby_HDi** » 25 Dec 2008, 15:07

citrojim wrote:...The pump has a heck of an output. STOP light off in about five seconds and the suspension rises and falls incredibly quickly on the lever....

This makes me curious...Would it be possible to fit an early pump to an Anti-sink? Would it cause problems and would it be beneficial in anyway?

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 25 Dec 2008, 15:16

Sadly not Toby

There are too many other differences in the hydraulic circuits to make it practical to do so. The steering racks are different and you'd have to add an FDV amongst other things.

Also, 7 piston pumps are very rare and not easy to source now. They also have a substantially bigger drive pulley.

There was a thread where this was discussed in detail a long while ago. I'll see if I can dig it out; it may take a time as it was in one of those threads that drifted a bit off-topic and the off-topic bit was why was the 7 piston pump not used on anti-sinks...

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 25 Dec 2008, 15:16

Toby_HDi wrote: This makes me curious...Would it be possible to fit an early pump to an Anti-sink? Would it cause problems and would it be beneficial in anyway?

I know if this was done the FDV would have to be reintroduced, would anything else have to be transferred across?
I presume the only reason it was changed to 6+2 was cost saving and possibly if there was partial failure to the pump you would at least have something working, either the steering or suspension?

Koukku · Unread post by **Koukku** » 25 Dec 2008, 15:48

Nice vid mate. How often do you do the citrobics? You said on the vid that it's a good idea to leave the suspension on low when parked for longer than few hours... is this really necessary if you do the citrobics regurally?

BTW, loved the soft sound of an idling diesel engine as a soundtrack.

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 25 Dec 2008, 17:55

Cheers!

Koukku wrote:You said on the vid that it's a good idea to leave the suspension on low when parked for longer than few hours... is this really necessary if you do the citrobics regurally?

I wouldn't say its necessary if Citrobics are done regularly, but its certainly a good habit if you don't.
I tend to do Citrobics every couple of weeks.

Theres a couple of bits I think I might change on the voiceovers such as the long time my stop light takes to go out and the fact my filters probably need cleaning because of this, also might admit the bit about it not being necessary to rev the engine to get it to rise up quicker as it does help a bit

I'd like to get these videos as accurate as possible so if anyone does have any more suggestions, let me know

EDIT: Looks like we posted at the same time earlier on Jim and answered my question too

Bren · Unread post by **Bren** » 26 Dec 2008, 19:35

Very good video - the sound of your car idling is actually quite soothing!

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 27 Dec 2008, 09:46

i thought your engine sounded a bit clatery, maybe got air in the fuel system, or your running on cooking oil,

also all hydraulic citroens dont have the lever featured in your vid, as some have a slide switch

regards malcolm

red_dwarfers · Unread post by **red_dwarfers** » 27 Dec 2008, 10:20

citronut wrote:i thought your engine sounded a bit clatery, maybe got air in the fuel system, or your running on cooking oil,

It generally does run on the cooking oil but its running on near as 90% derv at the moment, interesting insight, I thought they were all a little clattery? Milage would have something to do with it?

citronut wrote:also all hydraulic citroens dont have the lever featured in your vid, as some have a slide switch

regards malcolm

Cheers Malcolm

I'll change that in the final edit

What is it that the C5s and C6's have? Buttons of some sort I presume?

Anything else I should change/add for the final edit?

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 27 Dec 2008, 10:31

red_dwarfers wrote:I thought they were all a little clattery?

It's an old-school diesel Kev so they will sound a tad clattery on idle! Also, the sound recording of a diesel always seems to accentuate the clatteriness in my experience. Something to do with a camcorders poor ability to record the deep bass and emphasis on the treble.

Last time I heard your engine running Kev, it sounded as sweet as a nut

Koukku · Unread post by **Koukku** » 27 Dec 2008, 11:35

red_dwarfers wrote: What is it that the C5s and C6's have? Buttons of some sort I presume?

Yes, C5 has buttons, and I would think that C6 has also.

Unread post by **citroenxm** » 27 Dec 2008, 11:54

I would like to add in your video you mention Siezed Height correctors.. well as in fact its NEVER useually the height correctors the sieze but the stupid complex control unit that controls the height corrector itself.. theres two swinging levers which one is attached to the Plastic clip you mention and the other to the height corrector... and its actually these arms that seize NOT the height corrector itself...

A very good professional looking video.. what sort / type of camera did you use??

Rgds
Paul