Anybody hear about a "class action" that's apparently been taken against PSA in France after several 1.9td engines prematurely died?
I have a friend who lives over there and she said that there was something about it on the TV news regarding engines manufactured 96, 97 & 98. I've had a look on the web but can't find any reference....
Ron
class action?
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Jon
hm, there was some talk of this on the "Honest John" Forum
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk
and also in the Telegraph.
Try a search on Honest John. We have touched upon the subject on this Forum as well in the past, briefly, but I was not aware that affected owners were taking further action.
Jon Wood
Forum Admin
http://www.honestjohn.co.uk
and also in the Telegraph.
Try a search on Honest John. We have touched upon the subject on this Forum as well in the past, briefly, but I was not aware that affected owners were taking further action.
Jon Wood
Forum Admin
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alan s
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I wouldn't start ordering the champers just yet.
From experience here in Oz, where they'll follow the yanks through hell & high water, they've "got into" these class actions & civil suits in the past few years very "Aaahhl sue ya boooy!!" style.
The result is that there are some very wealthy lawyers running around now with a lot of very unhappy litigants chasing them because the legal eagles are the only ones to win.
Accounts and charges are scarey; a recent deceased estate for a family member that I was executor of, contained little gems like A$50 - $60 a time whenever the lawyer thought about the case. (Forgot the terminolgy now) and a single A4 photostat cost more than a meal at a franchised fast food outlet. "Engrossing" now there's a good one; if the legal man has to refer to a line of say about a dozen words in the law or a case being used as a precedent, and this is in a document of 1000 pages including index, glossary, references etc, and although one look at the index puts him straight on to it, he charges you for reading the 1000 pages which he theoretically can claim was that if the index wasn't there or he didn't have knowledge of it he would have to have done to find it. "Engrossing precedent case 'Billy Connolly vs God' 500 pages @ $5 per page" the account reads.
Personally, I would reckon you will potentially come out much further in front if you intend becoming involved with this by trying to contact others interested in also becoming involved, comparing notes, having a case put on paper and presenting to PSA and trying to negotiate a settlement as I feel your chances of winning a damages claim is worse than "slim" due to the precedent it could set for the rest of the car industry (how many Ford owners would then sue for rust in their cars etc??)
It would be a cheaper option for them that they could make some concessions that would benefit the complainants and at the same time leave them in a position whereby they don't lose face or their reputation & hence recoup their outlays in sales over a period of time.
Going on experiences out here, a class action is always recommended by lawyers as they "dine out" on it for years and at the end of the day, they are the only ones to collect the spoils; you would be in my opinion placing yourself in a no win position even if the action was successful. I speak from experience as I had a similar thing with a Lawn Tractor for my property & had no joy with the local distributors. After contacting the manufacturers in the USA directly & putting my point across, based on facts, I was sent a new tractor.
Alan S
From experience here in Oz, where they'll follow the yanks through hell & high water, they've "got into" these class actions & civil suits in the past few years very "Aaahhl sue ya boooy!!" style.
The result is that there are some very wealthy lawyers running around now with a lot of very unhappy litigants chasing them because the legal eagles are the only ones to win.
Accounts and charges are scarey; a recent deceased estate for a family member that I was executor of, contained little gems like A$50 - $60 a time whenever the lawyer thought about the case. (Forgot the terminolgy now) and a single A4 photostat cost more than a meal at a franchised fast food outlet. "Engrossing" now there's a good one; if the legal man has to refer to a line of say about a dozen words in the law or a case being used as a precedent, and this is in a document of 1000 pages including index, glossary, references etc, and although one look at the index puts him straight on to it, he charges you for reading the 1000 pages which he theoretically can claim was that if the index wasn't there or he didn't have knowledge of it he would have to have done to find it. "Engrossing precedent case 'Billy Connolly vs God' 500 pages @ $5 per page" the account reads.
Personally, I would reckon you will potentially come out much further in front if you intend becoming involved with this by trying to contact others interested in also becoming involved, comparing notes, having a case put on paper and presenting to PSA and trying to negotiate a settlement as I feel your chances of winning a damages claim is worse than "slim" due to the precedent it could set for the rest of the car industry (how many Ford owners would then sue for rust in their cars etc??)
It would be a cheaper option for them that they could make some concessions that would benefit the complainants and at the same time leave them in a position whereby they don't lose face or their reputation & hence recoup their outlays in sales over a period of time.
Going on experiences out here, a class action is always recommended by lawyers as they "dine out" on it for years and at the end of the day, they are the only ones to collect the spoils; you would be in my opinion placing yourself in a no win position even if the action was successful. I speak from experience as I had a similar thing with a Lawn Tractor for my property & had no joy with the local distributors. After contacting the manufacturers in the USA directly & putting my point across, based on facts, I was sent a new tractor.
Alan S
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Being a French company, PSA will be happy to provide service to its French customers and will probably settle out of court. The rest of the world does not exist and you can sue them until you are blue in the face, win your case and get the judgement. That is all you'll get. PSA will tell you to go to blazes - forever.