Xantia clutch clip in steel

[Keith J]

Hi, did a search and couldn't find what I needed. I believe that you can buy a steel version of the clutch clip that breaks on a Xantia pedal (I've seen it referred to as a Pingf**kit, because it goes ping and you say F**kit).

Can anyone please point me to where you can buy them in the UK? Thanks very much.

[vince]

from what ive heard Keith there was a company down south way who were making them but they were apparently snapping the cables instead so they have stopped making them for now.

Not sure if thats right but is what i was told recently by one of my Xantia owning customers.

He also told me that if you remove the guide tube that the cable passes through and the clip locates up against? then that stops the clips breaking.....again i havent done it myself but you hear a few DIY fixes when you work in the parts game

[Keith J]

Thanks for the info. Someone I know asked me to find out. I mentioned the steel clips a few months ago, now he would like one.

[CitroJim]

...but they were apparently snapping the cables instead so they have stopped making them for now.

And the cable itself is not exactly flimsy.

Fact is, a good 1.9TD clutch should be as light as a feather. If it is at all heavy, and heavy enough to snap a cable, there is an underlying problem which needs to be resolved.

[vince]

Following on from what Jim says, and the fact you say you arent getting any noticeable clutch operational problems, i presume the only problems that there could be is either a worn pressure plate or release bearing. That way the clutch will operate as normal, but it will be stiffer than normal.

Not really much you can do about those other than change the clutch...if you did the release bearing, whilst your doing that you might aswell do the clutch

I know when i get a Xantia...if and when it needs a clutch, its getting either a Valeo one or an LUK one.

[Gregg1100]

My clutch is heavy on my Xant2 as well---no slipping, etc--just put it down to that stupid pull type clutch. It's easier to push something than pull. I did my 16v clutch-nearly did for me-, but would like to see if ordinary push type could be used instead when faced with 1.9td clutch change.
Greg

[CitroJim]

I know when i get a Xantia...if and when it needs a clutch, its getting either a Valeo one or an LUK one.

Good thinking Vince. I replaced my 1.9TD clutch because it was heavy (but actually more so because one of the nylon clutch release shaft bushes had broken up) and I assumed they were all heavy because every other 1.9TD engined car I'd driven had a heavy clutch, notably a friends 306 D Turbo and a few other Xantias as well as my last 405TD.

I used new nylon bushes and a Citroen branded Valeo kit. I honestly thought I'd not done the job right because the clutch was so, so light afterward. It was so light that I had to check that it was actually releaseing and engaging before I risked starting it up. I did not believe it was.

I swear it was lighter than the hydraulic clutches on my 2.1 and Activa and they are light.

I should have known better though as I experienced the same when I replaced the clutch in dad's 205D. The old one was as heavy as Radio 3 and the new one as light as a light thing. Again a Valeo clutch kit.

The acid test will come later this week when we do Xac's clutch on his 1.9TD. I've asked him to get new nylon bushes and recommended he gets a Valeo or LUK kit.

[Xaccers]

The acid test will come later this week when we do Xac's clutch on his 1.9TD. I've asked him to get new nylon bushes and recommended he gets a Valeo or LUK kit.

I can't get to GSF and they don't like my debit card so I'm shopping at eurocarparts instead (similar prices).
They have a Transmech clutch kit, anyone know if it's any good?

[Penguin]

from what ive heard Keith there was a company down south way who were making them but they were apparently snapping the cables instead so they have stopped making them for now.

Not sure if thats right but is what i was told recently by one of my Xantia owning customers.

I can confirm this. I phoned them (can't remember their name though!) and they told me they had stopped making them because of cable breakages. I believe (though can't confirm) that a place in australia makes a reinforced clip.

[Xaccers]

from what ive heard Keith there was a company down south way who were making them but they were apparently snapping the cables instead so they have stopped making them for now.

Not sure if thats right but is what i was told recently by one of my Xantia owning customers.

I can confirm this. I phoned them (can't remember their name though!) and they told me they had stopped making them because of cable breakages. I believe (though can't confirm) that a place in australia makes a reinforced clip.

Is the problem with the plastic clip actually due to it being weakened by the first clutch wearing out, and then not being replaced when a new clutch is fitted by a garage?
So the weaker clip then breaks as the new clutch wears and gets heavier.

[jgra1]

Xac how much are you paying for the clutch and bushes...

mine is up for a transplant soon, just building a patio to do it on

engine out for me, as cambelt, possible HG, clutch are the least I need to do.. gearbox oil is overdue thankfully as well

John

[Xaccers]

Xac how much are you paying for the clutch and bushes...

mine is up for a transplant soon, just building a patio to do it on

engine out for me, as cambelt, possible HG, clutch are the least I need to do.. gearbox oil is overdue thankfully as well

John

http://www.eurocarparts.com/
Clutch kits exc. VAT:

641545050 Valeo £86.50
641545051 Transmech £48.50
646545191 Cable £19
646545265 Clip £6
640545030&40 left and right driveshaft seals £10


With the Transmech I'll get a new cable (had to chop the end off my current one so it's too short), driveshaft seals, and clip for under £100 inc VAT.

Never having changed a gearbox or removed an engine, I think I'd probably attempt it all with the engine still in. Too many pipes and things to remove and possibly damage (I know what I'm like!).
Cambelt is easy (done mine, er, 3 or 4 times now ), head swap had it's awkward moments (though having CitroJim helping was a godsend! though it was more like me helping him as he did most of the work), and putting everything back on took longer than taking it off, oh and turning the head bolts that last 240 degrees (or however far they're supposed to go) is scary!

[jgra1]

thanks Xac

J

[CitroJim]

though having CitroJim helping was a godsend! though it was more like me helping him as he did most of the work

It'll be the other way 'round with the clutch change Xac I'm going to be purely the consultant, tea maker and a second pair of hands

I have a feeling we'll be doing your job concurrent with a Saxo engine transplant There's going to be competition for the engine crane I reckon although if my neighbours demonstration of strength is anything to go by, perhaps not. He lifted the new engine out of the back of his 4X4 single-handed

John, I reckon if you have a number of jobs to do, having the engine and 'box out as one unit is the way to go. To go the extra mile to have the engine out compared to removing the gearbox is not that much. Exhaust and coolant hoses, a few wires and it's ready to lift. It sure makes a doddle of doing a clutch and a cambelt

[DickieG]

Xac,

I recently bought a clutch clip from ECP for a friend of mine but for some reason the ones they sell don't come with the additional metal clip whereas the ones dealers sell do, although they have the same (genuine) part number