help identify gearbox

toofargone · Unread post by **toofargone** » 28 Mar 2008, 15:16

Hello

Have removed gearbox from Synergie, 2.0 HDi. (Year 2000).

I can find no identification marks on it, where the marks should be. Have been told that this is an ML5T gearbox, but have also been told that this is wrong, (by a local car dismantlers).

Is there a difference between the ML5T and an ML5, see http://www.peugeotlogic.com/workshop/ws ... code1d.htm

More confusing, this site says it is an ME5K, http://peugeot.mainspot.net/eng_uk.shtml

Any help would be appreciated.

Thank You

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 28 Mar 2008, 15:30

a 2.0HDi can be fitted with either a BE3 if it's the 90bhp variant or the ML5T if it's the 110bhp model. This may be what is condfusing your breaker..

For easy identification, the BE3 has a rod operated gearchange whereas the ML5 has a cable operated gearchange.

Pop up a picture if you can, for a positive ID. Also, if you post the exact engine designator or VIN number, pr.net will identify positively the gearbox.

MikeT · Unread post by **MikeT** » 28 Mar 2008, 15:45

If you put the VIN number in to service.citroen.net (you need to register) you'll get a list of what box is fitted at the factory. HTH.

toofargone · Unread post by **toofargone** » 28 Mar 2008, 16:10

Thanks for replies.

The VIN is VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]

IT IS A CABLE OPERATED SYSTEM AND THE ENGINE IS 110BHP
THANKS AGAIN

MikeT · Unread post by **MikeT** » 28 Mar 2008, 17:03

Is this your car?

Product type CAR
Commercial marque/Component type CITROEN
Vehicle family EVASION - SYNERGIE
Silhouette FAMILY SALOON
Trim level HIGH HIGH
Engine DW10ATED TURBO DIESEL
Transmission BVM5
Model Year AM 2000
Interior trim type "FM" ANCONE VELOUR
Upholstery colour "FT"
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVM ML5T
Engine (Type) EW/DW
Other badge 2 0 HDI
Other badge, " Misc. " NO ADDITIONAL BADGE
Badge SX

Then this is your Gearbox/Driveshafts...

Transmission BVM5
Gearbox (Characteristics) BVM ML5T
Final drive ratio REAR AXLE HYPOID GEARSET 15 X 67
Speedometer drive TACHO TORQUE 25X20
Wheel style OPTIMIZED WHEEL
Tyre (Size, Type) 205X65X15 H TYRES
Wheels fitted 6,5" RIM ROAD WHEELS
Wheel (Type) STEEL WHEELS
Gearbox Type GEARBOX ML

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 28 Mar 2008, 21:51

Out of interest, toofargone, is there a problem with your gearbox?

I ask as the ML5 is reputed to be a tough old thing that is normally pretty reliable; most problems I believe being with the gearchange cables rather than the 'box itself.

toofargone · Unread post by **toofargone** » 28 Mar 2008, 23:32

The gearbox had two problems.
The main problem was that it would often, (90% of time), not go into second. If you used a very strong jolt then it might engage. Otherwise it just slipped out again. I tried to engage second gear at the gearbox itself yet it still would not stay in gear. The times that it did engage second gear worked perfectly--and once engaged it did not slip out.

The lesser problem was that in reverse things did not sound very healthy.

Thanks again. The forum is very very helpful.