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Having decided not to bother with a C5 estate, seen a 1999 on a T Xantia exclusive estate locally. 100k miles, FSH with recent cambelt. Price is top end at £1875, before trying to get that down. What do you guys reckon a fair price should be. Bought my R plate td temptation 2 estate last year with 124k on it for £600! (bargain). Its now at 150k and going fine, but want one with ABS and passenger airbag. Exclsuive too many goodies on it that go wrong or a good buy?

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A Hdi exclsuive is a pretty sought after car, and being an estate an added bonus. Is it the 110 hdi or 90 hdi, I would assume the 110 being an exclusive estate.

Was your R reg tempation a later model or early one, if it's the later one, you know what to expect, but I think the T reg one had a couple more minor updates that make it even better. Doesn't the temptation have ABS?

The point is, it's an Exclusive, i've had two, and the only thing that didn't work on both was the heated drivers seat, otheriwse it's a really good spec that isn't over the top and supremely comfortable, and I would buy again, and yes it would be a HDi, or another 2.1td (which i sold at 215k).

A point about the HDI engine is, it's cheap as chips to run, there have been a few issues with them that aren't too serious, and they are sentivie to water in the filter, I think Eolys fluid was an issue too, I'm not too sure exactly what that is, but someone more knowledgable than myself will explain more.

As for the price, £1875 doesn't seem too bad from a dealer (but make sure you squeeze an MOT from him, they don't like to tax as they have to register the car themselves, but if it has less than 4 months knock £100 off), regarding the FSH, full citroen would be needed for that price, with ALL the stamps being genuine and location of the stamped garage in locality to the owner. how many owners? Any receipts for any big parts? receipt for the cambelt, don't trust unless there is a receipt, and was the tensioner, water filter done at the same time. etc etc.

obviously, stamps from a reputable independant citroen specialist is generally better for xantias and xm etc in my opinion as citroen didn't care much for the hydropneumatic cars.

I'd go for £1500 with 6mths + tax and a valet from a dealer, £1300 from private. But check on parkers price guide.

As with any car, I'd offer less, not clued up on the xantia prices, but check on the
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If by locally you mean Central Scotland PM me. I bought my car from the same guy and he wasn't entirely straight with me. I'll tell you my experience in private and you can make your own mind up whether to deal with him.
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Hi Dei, thanks for that. No, my current one is the last of the old shape, with no abs. I live in the middle of no where with muddy roads, morons who think the accelerator is an on off switch and loads of tractors! Hence wanting the abs and airbags etc. This one is the 110HDi. It is a trader, so not a "Premium" seller. Worth a punt at £1500 probably. Trouble is, the current xantia has been so good in terms of reliability, always wary of changing to something different. Got an old Jeep Grand Cherokee which would do the job - aside from the fact it does 22mpg on a good day, gentle run - so that aint practical!
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is the cherokee the 2.5td engined varient?

Id go for the HDi unless you want to run your current one on SVO and save a fortune in fuel costs. The advantage with the HDi is the auxilary heating unit so that on cold mornings you will get warm air in the cabin very quickly :D
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Mine's the last of the MKI's, temptation2 it says on the log book. It has ABS and drivers airbag. :?
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The HDI Exclusive I had was a nice car but there's no cruise control and the hydractive never worked correctly. I seem to think Bernie had similar problems too. Various members spent many hours and quite a bit of money trying to get it to work correctly. Strangely both my XMs have a lovely ride since fitting new spheres.

It's said that if a HDi has had petrol in it, it's more prone to the lift pump disintegrating which writes off all the other fuel injection parts. Have a search and you should find a thread or two.

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Don't you need an auto for cruise control? technically not needed, but in the case of the xantia it may be that reason why the exclusive you had didn't have cc

take redblacks advice too, could mean a big difference to your wallet,

personally, i'd prefer the 2.1, although there aren't many fans of the lucas pump, i never had a problem, but you can always convert it to mechanical bosch and run it on veggie.

I must admit, the zx i have no has horrid brakes, they need bleeding yes, but there is no abs, so i'm slowing down a hell of lot till it's at least bled and got new tyres.

of course it's hard to get a hydractie 2 xantia with the suspension working 100% perfect, I've never had one... you will have to make allowances here and there to your preference.

good luck, let us know what happens
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have a word with bernie about this one, not sure if it's still for sale: http://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/v ... hp?t=22444
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deian wrote:have a word with bernie about this one, not sure if it's still for sale: dead-link frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/vi ... hp?t=22444
Not any more as it's now sitting on my drive :D
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steelcityuk wrote:The HDI Exclusive I had was a nice car but there's no cruise control and the hydractive never worked correctly. I seem to think Bernie had similar problems too.
That may have been due to the car having front (firmer damping) sphere's fitted to the rear struts :?
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I always thought that not having cruise control on a top of the range car was a mistake by Citroen with the Xantia. Manual XMs have it. Either by vacuum means on the 2.1s or fully electronically on 2.5s with the Bosch pump. It cost about £38 to buy the parts from a Citroen dealer to upgrade my XM to cruise.

I guess having the wrong spheres wouldn't help would it? Both my Xantia and XM had wrong spheres fitted when I bought them.

I'd certainly fit an additional fuel filter if I bought another HDi. For the sake of around £10 it's got to be a good idea.

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The Jeep is a 1998 Grand Cherokee Orvis, 4.0 straight 6. Nice enough if bouncy and hopeless round corners.

The fancier suspension of the Exclusive sounds a bit touch and go. I am intrigued by this veggie oil thing though. Bosch pump and simply pour in the oil? Surely must be more to it than that? Take it it is used oil - do the chips go in the tank too? :wink:

No abs on my temptation 2. drivers air bag tho. Its one of those cars though that you give an oil change to and not much more and just keeps going. Unlike many others (not xantias) I have had which have been tempramental swines!
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