Different HDi Set ups - Cit V Pug
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Different HDi Set ups - Cit V Pug
Are there different HDi engines maps/set ups?
My recently bought 53 plate 307SW feels flat and unresponsive low down compared to my old X reg Xantia. This is despite having the same 2.0 HDi 110 engine. It's also worse on fuel. The Xantia did at least 45mpg, normally 47-49mpg. The 307 is only managing 42mpg
My recently bought 53 plate 307SW feels flat and unresponsive low down compared to my old X reg Xantia. This is despite having the same 2.0 HDi 110 engine. It's also worse on fuel. The Xantia did at least 45mpg, normally 47-49mpg. The 307 is only managing 42mpg
307SW HDi 110
Same with mine, the first time I gave it a thrash it smoked like a barsteward & great chunks of solid black soot fell out of the exhaust onto the road Probably the result of 4 years with the previous owner doing the school run with a cold engine in heavy traffic every morning.
I've been giving it the occasional Italian tune up & using Millers diesel additive too. It just seems to be getting quicker, smoother and more economical all the time
I've been giving it the occasional Italian tune up & using Millers diesel additive too. It just seems to be getting quicker, smoother and more economical all the time
It did take a fair amount of time (5000+ miles so far) before I started to notice any improvement. I have also disconnected the EGR, not that it made any apparent difference, but will help to prevent it getting clogged up in future.
I have cleaned the MAF sensor with some carb cleaner, a faulty MAF can cause lack of power on these engines but its worth trying a clean before replacing it.
I have cleaned the MAF sensor with some carb cleaner, a faulty MAF can cause lack of power on these engines but its worth trying a clean before replacing it.
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My C5 seems to have become much more lively since I recently serviced it. I changed oil and oil filter as you'd expect. Then I fitted a K&N panel filter. I changed the fuel filter and the old one looked very grey with residue in the filter bowl.
I think my fuel filter may have been a problem prior to the service.
I also picked up a tip from a yahoo site which suggested that you check for slack play in your throttle cable. I took a bit of slack out of mine.
The result is a much more responsive C5 2.2 Hdi.
The fuel economy is still rubbish, but it picks up better and now I don't notice any 'normal' cars overtaking me or leaving me standing at the lights any more. So, I don't get depressed by it's performance like I used to.
Was it the K&N or Fuel filter or slack in the throttle.... I'm not sure. That's the trouble when you change more than one thing at a time.
cheers, Kev
I think my fuel filter may have been a problem prior to the service.
I also picked up a tip from a yahoo site which suggested that you check for slack play in your throttle cable. I took a bit of slack out of mine.
The result is a much more responsive C5 2.2 Hdi.
The fuel economy is still rubbish, but it picks up better and now I don't notice any 'normal' cars overtaking me or leaving me standing at the lights any more. So, I don't get depressed by it's performance like I used to.
Was it the K&N or Fuel filter or slack in the throttle.... I'm not sure. That's the trouble when you change more than one thing at a time.
cheers, Kev
Cheers, Kev
02 plate C5 2.2 Hdi Exclusive SE (now 170k miles 03/21).
Used to have:- Xantia 1.9 TurboD SX. 1996 Blue & 1998 Silver Activa. + 1992 BX TZD Turbo.
02 plate C5 2.2 Hdi Exclusive SE (now 170k miles 03/21).
Used to have:- Xantia 1.9 TurboD SX. 1996 Blue & 1998 Silver Activa. + 1992 BX TZD Turbo.
Cheers guys. I do need to read up on this particle filter thing. If the economy doesn't improve i may have it remapped. Might aswell be fast if isn't going to frugal
Kev, where did you get your K&N filter from and how much was it? They only ever seem available for the boy racer brigade, or a bit of a bodge.
Kev, where did you get your K&N filter from and how much was it? They only ever seem available for the boy racer brigade, or a bit of a bodge.
307SW HDi 110
I got my K & N from Euro car parts.£41 with the vat.They did`nt list it for my 406,but its the same as a Xantia TD`s,so got that 1.Have a look at knfilters.com for part numbers.A lot of Peugeot/Citroen filters are the same.
My 110 hdi was good on performance,but its great since i had it remapped to 140 bhp ish.Also gained about 5 mpg ish.Can often get over 50 mpg from it on a mixture of driving.
My 110 hdi was good on performance,but its great since i had it remapped to 140 bhp ish.Also gained about 5 mpg ish.Can often get over 50 mpg from it on a mixture of driving.
53`406 est SE Hdi 140,110k
Sounds like it but i dont have a p;artical filter on mine.I had mine done by a bloke called Will,in Wolverhampton,through ebay.
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/performance_torque
Very good he was too.
http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/performance_torque
Very good he was too.
53`406 est SE Hdi 140,110k
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There are different engine management systems used on 2.0 HDI engines, the majority were Bosch EDC15, whilst others used Siemens Sid 801.
I believe the Siemens version doesn't have the additional fuel pump in the tank, which due to well reliabilty issues is quite a blessing really.
I believe the Siemens version doesn't have the additional fuel pump in the tank, which due to well reliabilty issues is quite a blessing really.
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14 BMW 535D Tourer
19 BMW i3s
06 C3 Desire 1.4
72 DS 21 EFi Pallas BVH
Has anyone had positive results from re-mapping the 90HDi engien? My Xantia is wonderfully frugal, but a little more urge wouldn't go amiss. I do not want to spoil the economy aspect.
R.I.P. January 2010.
XM 2.1 auto VSX 1996 - Bosch Inj, Xantia HDi 90 estate 1999, Xantia 1.9TD 1997
Previously...
GS 1970, Dyane 1974, Xantia 94 VSX TD, XM 94, 2.1 auto - Lucas Inj, XM 92 2.1 estate - Lucas Inj
XM 2.1 auto VSX 1996 - Bosch Inj, Xantia HDi 90 estate 1999, Xantia 1.9TD 1997
Previously...
GS 1970, Dyane 1974, Xantia 94 VSX TD, XM 94, 2.1 auto - Lucas Inj, XM 92 2.1 estate - Lucas Inj