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Is anyone aware of somewhere in Cumbria that can clean a turbo?
I've found one place on the internet in Kendal, but its a bit far away.
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(I would also need them to remove and then refit the thing as I haven't a clue)
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Out of interest, why do you need the turbo cleaned?
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I've never heard of a turbo needing cleaning ?, what part of it could possibly need cleaning ?
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Had a previous post somewhere about anti-pollution fault. Cit Dealer think the trubo needs replaced as the Eolys builds up in the turbo. But I've been told that turbos can be cleaned.
There is a place in Kendal that will do it for around £300. But tis a bit far. A new turbo fitted from Citroen is £1060.
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mooseshaver wrote:Had a previous post somewhere about anti-pollution fault. Cit Dealer think the trubo needs replaced as the Eolys builds up in the turbo. But I've been told that turbos can be cleaned.
There is a place in Kendal that will do it for around £300. But tis a bit far. A new turbo fitted from Citroen is £1060.
All sounds very spurious to me :shock: Sounds like a money-making scheme :roll: . Surely the Eolys burns in the particulate filter? It is hard to see how it could cause a mess in the Turbo. In fact, the Eolys (if I understand correctly) is ignited in the particulate filter by making the exhaust gasses very hot for a short while and this very act would help burn any deposits out of the turbo turbine.
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There is somewhere on here comments that the Eolys doesn't burn, it build up in the particulate filter which is why that needs changed.
The dealer said that it happens on all the 2.2 diesels once they get to arround 70000 miles.
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what a crock! save your money mate sounds like they are trying to get some money outa you for somthing u dont need!!!!

are there any problems with the car for you to suspect the turbo????

i would be very jubious!!!! :roll:
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mooseshaver wrote:Is anyone aware of somewhere in Cumbria that can clean a turbo?
I've found one place on the internet in Kendal, but its a bit far away.
Thanks
(I would also need them to remove and then refit the thing as I haven't a clue)
I would say it sounds rubbish. Give it an Italian tune up (take the engine to over 4000 rpm whilst driving and look in the rear view mirror) and try getting a smoke test if your worried.

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As a 2.2 hdi C5 owner whose turbo blew at 55,000 miles and which cost nearly £1000 to replace and as someone who has owned several turbo diesels this was the first blown turbo I had known. Citroen were not the slightest interested giving the impression that this was a normal life for a Citroen C5 manufactured turbo. I intend to have my replacement turbo cleaned as I reckon it will save me another £1000 !
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Go ahead.... it's your money to waste :roll:
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Fella wrote:As a 2.2 hdi C5 owner whose turbo blew at 55,000 miles and which cost nearly £1000 to replace and as someone who has owned several turbo diesels this was the first blown turbo I had known. Citroen were not the slightest interested giving the impression that this was a normal life for a Citroen C5 manufactured turbo. I intend to have my replacement turbo cleaned as I reckon it will save me another £1000 !
So what did the knackered turbo look like? Surely the immisions would be crap if it was getting caked up in such a short time.

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Hi there, I would like to hear more about this.. Did these C5 turbochargers "blow" their seals and/or cause wear on the rotating shaft, or did the buildup cause a mechanical failure of the wastegate resulting in overboost and consequent failure ? If every c5 2.2 has this "ticking timebomb" then it won't do much for resale value. 50k is a pretty poor life for a turbo when most xud turbos seem to outlast the car !
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My problem is the "Anti pollution Fault". This has been diagnosed as a faulty turbo causing too higher pressure.
I can avoid the fault by lot leaving the car at just below 2000 revs, so 60 in fith causes the problem to appear, but 60 in forth does not!
I've tried a little bit of running at high engine revs, but will give it a longer go.
When I told my brother, who up untill he found sercurity guards get paid mroe, was a mechanic, he told me he always used to just remove turbos and send them for cleaning or repair reather than replace.
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bought some stuff to spray in turbo and some redex. Will see what that does.
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"Anti pollution Fault" is a wellknown problem on C5.

Recently there has been issues with bad (contaminated) fuel from gas stations - setting off the APF message.
Hold your horses and let your fueltank go low, then choose a different and well reputed gas station to fill up. Chances are you may never again see the message.

The HDI catalytic converter has 2 small pressure pipes leading to a differential pressure sensor.
If the pressure differential over the cat is wrong related to the engines momentary working condition, you will get the APF message.
Wether this is related to a reduced flow or not in the turbo I donno. But the turbo is fitted in front of the cat converter downstream the exhaust flow, so might not be that rubbish talk after all.

It certainly is an easy & cheap first test using some of the wellknown engine carbon cleaners in the engine air intake and the fuel. At least you get both air intake and fuelways cleaned up :idea:
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