Xantia F susp lower arm bush Q?

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Xantia F susp lower arm bush Q?

Post by sbraud »

again... Sorry!

Just ordering replacement suspension lower arm bushes for Xantia and thought I’d check layout first.

Am I right in thinking the lower arm bush is No 9, diagram below, and is the `mushroom shaped front bush’ described on GSF online shop?

Also, does part C, below, also have a bush in it and is it replaceable? If so anyone know a source, other than genuine? I only ask as I know I need to replace front bush as steering is woolly and noticed movement in part C also. I guess most of movement was due to worn bush (no 9) but should there be very slight side to side movement in bush, part C or is the normal?

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Post by RichardW »

"Am I right in thinking the lower arm bush is No 9, diagram below, and is the `mushroom shaped front bush’ described on GSF online shop? "

Yes, I think that's right. The rear bushes are available from GSF (N42228 / N 42229 depending on hand) - it comes complete with inner / outer rings and bush as shown as C on the diagram - interesting that Citroen only seem to supply it as a complete arm - although it is known to be a swine to replace! Take car to orientate the bush correctly on the shaft or it will fail again in short order. There was also a thread on here a few days ago about GSF supplying bushes that didn't fit - they were loose on the arm.
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Post by andmcit »

I've recently changed all four bushes on the front arms of one of my Xantiae;
two each arm as you say; the mushroom one at the front and the larger one
for the rear. These are BOTH available from GSF.

In hindsight I wish I'd left the mushroom one's alone as they weren't
degraded/worn and were perfectly OK on the arms. These were an absolute
swine to remove and put back into the arm. Took me a whole afternoon
faffing about and unless you can burn these out with plasma/oxy I'd leave
well alone unless of course you've got nothing else to do or they have for
some reason really gone pear shaped instead of mushroom shaped!!

The rear bush is an all in one piece part which you replace the whole lot
with the new 13quid one from GSF - they are handed and you MUST get
their orientation right - not only in terms of the physical direction the bolt
through bracket faces but also the angle of their location on the arm as
the arm needs to sit off the subframe dead horizontal before being
attached to the strut by the balljoint - it's all shown in the Haynes.

These can be hacksawed or carefully angle grindered off but don't be
tempted to clean the wishbone arm's shank if you do slightly catch it with
the grinder and take too much off the diameter :oops: - a tad over zealous
with a file I had to get a different arm - doh!!

I did find the listing for GSF seemed to contradict the physical packet's
labelling of the rear bracket/bush and the guys mere adamant that the left
hand one they wanted to sell me was right until I showed it alongside my
car that was parked outside!! Possible a mislabelling in their stock, but
something to keep an eye out on to save potentially wasted journey's to
and fro!!

Andrew
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Post by andmcit »

N42227 FR CONT ARM FR BUSH XANTIA FRONT BUSH (MUSHROOM SHAPE) 5.25 +vat
N42228 FR CONT ARM REAR BUSH R/H XANTIA REAR BUSH RH 13.60+vat
N42229 FR CONT ARM REAR BUSH L/H XANTIA REAR BUSH LH 13.60+vat

Obviously, the mushroom bush isn't handed and will only sit in each wishbone
arm one way. Another point to watch is refitting the rear bush onto the
arm's shank; when it goes on there is definately only one chance to get
it right or blow it if you get it wrong - there's no determinable swivelling
adjustment to get the angle of the bush's bracketing right so you can get
the arm's resting position out of kilter. This will strain the bush preloading
it when you swing the arm to a position to meet the strut leg on reassembly
and I'd imagine the rubber donut of the bush will give way rather sooner
than intended.

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Post by andmcit »

Final thought - as with most suspension parts it's immensely handy to have
a pre-prepped replacement part at hand to switch over immediately with the
old one off the car - the down time the car is left with it's backside hanging
out is kept to a minimum allowing less time for the Missus/SWMBO to winge
that you NEVER spend as much time/energy/money on her, nor the neighbours
to say 'he's having great difficulty fixing that old wreck of a Citroen <sp> AGAIN -
it's been up on axle stands all day/all weekend (delete where applicable)..." :lol:

SSSSOOOOOO, in true Blue Peter styley, here's a lower wishbone with new
bushes that I prepared earlier - but don't use double sided sticky tape for
speed though!! :wink:

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Post by sbraud »

Thanks Richard and Andrew, thanks a million. :D

Advice really helped clear things up. Looks like I can finish that order and crawl under car, in the rain, cold and dark for my next instalment of `you’re always under that bl**dy car’ from missus and looks of sympathy from neighbour, thinking `why doesn’t he buy a new car!’ :wink:

I have only one thing to say: Hello my name is Steve. I drive a Citroen Xantia and have done for the last eight years and yes I’m addicted… :lol:

Cheers
Steve
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97 Saxo 1.1 SX 100k
03 S-Type Jag (sorry!)
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Post by Gaskin »

Steve,

It may be too late, but this company seem to sell complete Xantia wishbones.

http://www.buypartsby.co.uk/

I don't know anything about them, nor have used them. I'd be interested to know if they are any good though as I've got to do mine in the near future and after loosing a thumb nail doing my ZX bushes, I'd prefer to take the easy way out and use a new wishbone on the Xantia!

Cheers

Duncan
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Post by john alexander »

Hi ANDMCIT is correct I had the same problem with GSF in glasgow who tried to sell me the wrong handed bushing. I ended up buying both when I couldn't convince them they were wrong. If It happens in glasgow and wales, then there is a problem. regards john.
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