My slip is showing.......

Unread post by **Sir Clive** » 03 Jul 2006, 08:55

Oh Bugrit- after 90,000 miles the clutch on the C5 (2.0 HDi) is starting to slip when booting the throttle, overtaking for instance.
Usual symptoms, revs rise but speed doesn't increase, then after a few seconds the clutch bites again.
As I've got to have the cambelt changed soon, I'm wondering if it would be best to get both jobs done at once if my credit card can take the strain.....
Apparently doing a C5 clutch is not a nice job!
OTOH I could try and eke out the clutch for a few more months but I'm wondering how much longer its got left before giving up the ghost altogether, especially as I do quite a lot of towing.
Opinions anyone?

JohnD · Unread post by **JohnD** » 03 Jul 2006, 09:38

Consider going for a Valeo four part clutch kit and get rid of the DMFlywheel.

citronut · Unread post by **citronut** » 03 Jul 2006, 09:39

it shouldnt make any odds doing either one at a time or both together,as they are both a opposite ends of the engine,unless they have got to remove the engine and box complet for the clutch job,in this case it will be best to have both jobs done together,as far as how long will the clutch last there is only one way to find out and you will be the first one to know
regards malcolm

Unread post by **alan s** » 03 Jul 2006, 09:48

I know I've got a twisted sense of humour at the best of times, but I found this more than a bit amusing.

My slip is showing.......

Got rear ended !!

as it appeared in the forum index.
I won't ask if there's any connection!!

Alan S

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 03 Jul 2006, 14:11

The more you let the clutch slip the quicker it will wear out. If you use some restraint with the throttle it could last a long time, my last XM had this problem, slipping when the turbo came in, but by backing off a bit and letting it bite, it lasted until I parted with the car some 10k miles later and was still quite driveable then.

PowerLee · Unread post by **PowerLee** » 03 Jul 2006, 17:45

JohnD wrote:Consider going for a Valeo four part clutch kit and get rid of the DMFlywheel.

If your keeping the car & it does have the dreaded DMF fitted then now is the time to fitted the decent set up

Unread post by **Sir Clive** » 04 Jul 2006, 11:43

Well, I don't have any intentions of parting with the car just yet- its hardly run in

Is the dual mass flywheel really *that* troublesome? Certainly mine emits none of the warning squeeks when taking up the drive........
Is the Valeo kit cheaper than the Citroen OEM part- silly question I suppose

Though I do wonder what the problem is, given that I have never managed to wear out a clutch in any of my previous cars, the BX one was still going strong when I sold it at well over 200,000 miles, and the Visa diesel did nearly 150k before the release bearing broke up.

JohnD · Unread post by **JohnD** » 04 Jul 2006, 16:09

[quote="Sir Clive"]
Is the dual mass flywheel really *that* troublesome?quote]

It sems that when they do decide to go, they go in an expensive way, having done a lot of damage. Reading other forums, other makes of cars with DMF don't appear to be any more reliable than PSA. Also, I believe it's Honda that's gone back to fitting a solid flywheel.

sub42 · Unread post by **sub42** » 04 Jul 2006, 18:49

Yep!

Seems Dual Mass Flywheels are prone to failure. The worst case I havwe had was on my VW Transporter T4. The beginning of the end was marked by a rough idle, and chattering back down to idle from part throttle. It had a new clutch and flywheel at 8k, 20k, 50k, and finally 95k! When the job costs £795 a time you can see why the lease company was trying to blame me! As it turns out DMF's are a liability that VW have agreed cause problems on that particular engine configuration. I test drove about four 2.0HDI Synergies before i bought my 1.9TD, and to be honest, the gearbox noises some where making worried me lots! So, on balance, I thought that mine at 50k, with history, would be a better buy than a 120k mile HDI with some history, and a price tag about at £1.5k more.