Xantia Hydractive 2 Electrovalve wanted

Mandrake · Unread post by **Mandrake** » 26 Feb 2006, 21:11

Hi All,

I wonder if someone can help me locate a second hand Hydractive 2 electrovalve for my Xantia. Those following my message threads will know that the front valve in my car is leaking badly internally causing a variety of symptoms including intermitant harsh ride.

As usual, I've so far been unable to locate a second hand one in New Zealand, and even new is looking unlikely or at the least exhorbatively expensive

Just to remind people what device I'm talking about, here is a picture: (thanks bernie)

They seem to get some kind of grit or foreign objects into them which cause the needle valve not to seat fully, thus high leakage. The problem is, trying to get them apart without breaking them. I'm sure that if I can get it apart it can be cleaned and reconditioned as good as new.

There is a 22mm nut at the base, and a 16mm nut on the overflow, and these should allow them to come apart but they are incredibly tight, suggesting perhaps locktite on the thread. See also:

Because I don't have a spare I can't afford to break either one on my car as it will put me off the road with no hope of finding another valve in the short term. When I had them out I already applied as much torque as I though they would safely stand, and they didnt budge.

So what I'm looking for here is a reasonably cheap second hand one (perhaps from a scrapyard ?) which I can then test - and if it has no leakage I will just use it, but if it does also leak, I can try a bit more vigorously to get it apart, knowing that if I DO break it, my car is not off the road. If I can get it apart I can recondition it and use it.

Anybody got one of these lying around ?

Regards,
Simon

AndersDK · Unread post by **AndersDK** » 26 Feb 2006, 21:37

96.119.952 ELECTRO VALVE

Same part all models. Price tag Dkr 677.45 (ex vat)
Thats some UK£60 - not too bad ?

BTW : from Bernies pictures above the electrovalve coil looks very much like a standard coil for any electrovalve foun in washing machines, oil burners, fuel or water feed controlling valves etc etc. My guess the dia of the valve shrank (hole in coil) is 3/8" - or just about some 10.5mm.

Is the coil rated at 5-8Watts ? (as this is standard for such coils as above)

Mandrake · Unread post by **Mandrake** » 26 Feb 2006, 21:57

AndersDK wrote:96.119.952 ELECTRO VALVE

Same part all models. Price tag Dkr 677.45 (ex vat)
Thats some UK£60 - not too bad ?

Hi Anders,

If I could get it at that price it would be bearable, however in NZ new Citroen parts are approximately 2-3 times the price of parts in the UK

(Just as one example - quoted price for new front spheres (each) for my car $187NZ excluding tax = approx £70, compared to GSF at £23)

BTW : from Bernies pictures above the electrovalve coil looks very much like a standard coil for any electrovalve foun in washing machines, oil burners, fuel or water feed controlling valves etc etc. My guess the dia of the valve shrank (hole in coil) is 3/8" - or just about some 10.5mm.

Is the coil rated at 5-8Watts ? (as this is standard for such coils as above)

Yes it would be approx 10mm. The wattage rating is fairly low. The resistance is 4.7 ohms, and it can't stand full 12 volts for any period of time without overheating even though 12 volts is needed to activate it, so it is pulsed at 12 volts for half a second, then PWM to an average value of about 2.7 volts, so about 1.5 watt continous dissapation.

Regards,
Simon

Rostami · Unread post by **Rostami** » 26 Feb 2006, 22:50

I would be glad to buy one from Citroen Portugal and send it to you by post.

I can manage 25% discount on usual prices, but the price here is a very high 170 Euro...(including tax).

Should I look for one at a scrappy? Is it from the front or the rear? Or does the "plain" HA2 (no ACTIVA) only have one?

Mandrake · Unread post by **Mandrake** » 27 Feb 2006, 00:26

Rostami wrote:I would be glad to buy one from Citroen Portugal and send it to you by post.

I can manage 25% discount on usual prices, but the price here is a very high 170 Euro...(including tax).

Hi Rostami,

Thats very generous of you to offer, however it looks like you pay much higher prices for Citroen parts than the UK just like we do

The NZ dollar is also not very favourable to the Euro so by the time it got over here it would probably cost the same or more as buying it locally. (Assuming it was available)

Should I look for one at a scrappy? Is it from the front or the rear? Or does the "plain" HA2 (no ACTIVA) only have one?

A Hydractive 2 model has two Hydractive control blocks each with an electrovalve - one at the front and one at the back.

Front and rear units are 100% identical and interchangable.

The Activa has a third control block and electrovalve at the rear to control the Activa rollbar sphere - the control block looks the same as the Hydractive 2 unit, but internally it is different. The electrovalve *may* be the same, but I wouldn't rely on it being true.

If you have a nearby scrappy that you could query to see if there are any available and approximate cost that would be helpful, yes...

Regards,
Simon

JohnCKL · Unread post by **JohnCKL** » 02 Mar 2006, 15:53

I can get one from the scrappy but not sure the cost and shipment. Perhaps shipment is cheaper as Malaysia is nearer to NZ.

Mandrake · Unread post by **Mandrake** » 02 Mar 2006, 19:44

JohnCKL wrote:I can get one from the scrappy but not sure the cost and shipment. Perhaps shipment is cheaper as Malaysia is nearer to NZ.

Hi John,

Thanks for the offer. I should have posted an update to this thread as since the original post I have found one in New Zealand after all, so assuming it doesn't leak like the original one (I havn't seen or tested it yet, and it is second hand) I should be ok. But thanks anyway

Regards,
Simon