C6 video

paranoid · Unread post by **paranoid** » 25 May 2005, 01:20

New c6 video off sky news motoring.
http://www.sky.com/skynews/xml/article/ ... 51,00.html

BMW · Unread post by **BMW** » 25 May 2005, 06:24

Does anyone know if c6 will have a sc.car system?

Mandrake · Unread post by **Mandrake** » 25 May 2005, 09:08

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by BMW

Does anyone know if c6 will have a sc.car system?
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Or for that matter, a return to high pressure brakes...instead of the conventional system on the C5 ?
Regards,
Simon

bencowell · Unread post by **bencowell** » 25 May 2005, 12:00

The C6 contains the suspension of the 407 with the springs swapped for spheres, so I doubt they will redesign the steering or brakes for economy reasons.

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 25 May 2005, 14:49

The C5 has "normal" brakes anyway, so I very much doubt that the C6 will get anything any different. The 407 is the same floorpan as the C5, so the C5 and C6 are pretty close brethren.

VisaGTi16v · Unread post by **VisaGTi16v** » 25 May 2005, 14:51

Vaguely related, I was watching some music channel the other day and Natalie Imburglias latest song was on Shiver, and at the start shes thrashing around in a Citroen, pardon my ignorance, think it was a GS as it looked bigger than a CX?

Anyway was quite funny but then she eventually crashed it down a flight of steps!

406 V6 · Unread post by **406 V6** » 25 May 2005, 15:07

As speculated on another site a few weeks ago (it wasmentioned here), i don't see Citroën returning to mechanical pumps.
http://www.citroen-ds-id.com/index.html ... nsion.html
but fro mthis site, i'm with the site's owner/writer, in that the 2 large central spheres could be used for an all independant Activa/HA hybrid suspension, with each strut/ram acting separately for body movement (roll/pitch), while maintaining high comfort levels. No need for a HA with 3 modes (soft, medium and hard) in my point of view.
One problem i see now, is the use of an electric pump. Can it cope with the high demands for hidraulic fluid? If so, it will probably need to work permanantely in more adverse conditions, with the need for a brushless type of motor for a longer lifespan, unlike the C5 pump, which only works when there is a need for height correction (dynamic/static), although i don't know the electric motor type it uses.

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 25 May 2005, 15:35

Have the high pressure brakes been "outlawed" in the latest C and R regs on account that there is no mechanical actuation in case of engine failure like there is on conventional servo assisted brakes? I know the accumulator sphere holds a reserve but this is finite, unlike a back-up mechanical system...

ActivaV6uk · Unread post by **ActivaV6uk** » 25 May 2005, 16:10

your hand break is the mecanical componant of breaks this is what that section means i was told (by and MOT tester).
Andy

danielsydney · Unread post by **danielsydney** » 30 May 2005, 11:54

great video i love the C6....

BMW · Unread post by **BMW** » 31 May 2005, 04:22

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">The C6 contains the suspension of the 407 with the springs swapped for spheres<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">
This is bad news... The 407 suspension is not a very good one, if compared with a Xantia Activa or a BMW suspension.

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 31 May 2005, 14:58

It's a double wishbone setup, which is definately better than machpherson struts and trailing arms. If it had active anti-roll bars it would be even better still. BMW use complex multi link set ups with very stiff springs, they aren't exactly comfortable and they benefit from rear wheel drive too.

BMW · Unread post by **BMW** » 01 Jun 2005, 02:46

BMW has many suspensions, according to model and sub-model.
Entry levels have cheap suspensions.
In what respects to comfort, the Xantia Activa is half-way between my family two BMWs.
The 740i suspension is far more comfortable than the Xantia Activa but the Activa has better handling.
The Activa is more comfortable than the 330i but the 330i is much more fun to drive - direct steering, sensations, and a spectacular stability at speeds between 150 and 250km/h.
I've tried non-Activa Xantias and the suspension is really dangerous - they have wheels but on corners they balance as a boat... [:D]
I only have the Xantia Activa because it has no market value. I prefer to use it as a spare car than to give it away. Unlike BMWs, used Citroens in my country have very little value. A really bad investment for those who buy them new.
Saludos.

rossd · Unread post by **rossd** » 01 Jun 2005, 02:52

Doesn't the BMW 740 use some sort of air suspension, or is it conventionally steel sprung? I know this is slightly off topic, but a comparison of air Vs hydro systems could be apoint of discussion.
I expect the 740 rides better due to the HUGE wheelbase it has.

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 01 Jun 2005, 04:45

I think Mr Clarkson had said that air suspension ruined the ride of several cars that had it (Jaguar Mercedes etc) and steel was the way to go for comfort. Obviously he hasn't heard about Citroens...