A time bomb?

bikeboyz · Unread post by **bikeboyz** » 20 May 2005, 16:40

Whose seen this little 2CV van on ebay?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ... eName=WDVW
602cc, with a turbo charger, running on LPG!
A seperate burner for a hot water heating system, I hope the gas cylinder in the photo is for that and not the LPG!
Imagine this in a crash if it doesn't have all the safety valves, looks a bit too DIY for me, bit of a prang in Sainsburys car park and you've blown up the coffee shop!!!

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 20 May 2005, 16:56

I'd like to see you find an insurer that would insure it, it doesn't exactly look like an approved vehicular gas storage device.

jeremy · Unread post by **jeremy** » 20 May 2005, 18:59

I think the cylinder shown is for the heating - in which case its probably better than most caravans as there is ample ventialtion.
Interesting toy for someone. Should be interesting to get parts for it!
jeremy

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 20 May 2005, 19:43

It doesn't matter whether that cylinder does just the heating or the whole system, brass valves are very easy to knock off the end of cylinders and it could happen in a collision.
My Dad tells a story about a welder he knew at a ship yard who knocked over an oxygen bottle on a frosty morning. Apparently the valve broke off cleanly and the bottle became a rocket which went straight through the side of the building he was working in, luckilly nobody was hurt.

oilyspanner · Unread post by **oilyspanner** » 20 May 2005, 20:31

Interesting vehicle, I wonder how much extra the turbo gives it?
Stewart

Unread post by **CitroJim** » 20 May 2005, 21:15

It's worrying that the gas cylinder is laying on its side. Unless its one specifically designed for the job,like a black-rimmed forklift cylinder, this too is dangerous as liquid gas cam escape from the valve. LPG must always be carried and used with the valve uppermost at all times. Also I would not rely on that little chain to keep it from exiting stage-left in an emergency...
The pharse "deathtrap" comes to mind looking at this vehicle...

Stinkwheel · Unread post by **Stinkwheel** » 20 May 2005, 23:37

doesnt look that clever does it.
Could have been carried out better, the turbo set up looks better done, bet that works quite well. In my past experience a turbo 2CV will manage about 95.

Dave Bamber · Unread post by **Dave Bamber** » 21 May 2005, 00:36

Check out how close the exhaust is to the brake master cylinder.
It seems the LPG tanks in the pictures are for the engine fuel supply........

PowerLee · Unread post by **PowerLee** » 21 May 2005, 00:37

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It's worrying that the gas cylinder is laying on its side. Unless its one specifically designed for the job,like a black-rimmed forklift cylinder, this too is dangerous as liquid gas cam escape from the valve. LPG must always be carried and used with the valve uppermost at all times. Also I would not rely on that little chain to keep it from exiting stage-left in an emergency...
The pharse "deathtrap" comes to mind looking at this vehicle...
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Spot on, The forklift cylinders have a special valve with a pick up hose inside the cylinder, They also have a direction arrow spray painted on the end of the cylinder.
The direction arrow is to show where abouts the cylinder should be layed on its side so the pick works correctly & safely.
The cylinder in this car is a forklift bottle, But its NOT fitted correctly, The direction bottom arrow is pointing towards 9 o'clock.
Gas cylinders ( Unless its a forklift bottle ) should NEVER be used unless they are standing upright, They should also be stored upright at all times.

Stinkwheel · Unread post by **Stinkwheel** » 21 May 2005, 01:31

Good point about that master cylinder near the exhaust dave.
As standard the acad can boil its fluid when heavy and hills are involved, and if it happens to have a GSA engine, the brakes are just not up to the job, extra heat, weight and performance.

Unread post by **Jon** » 21 May 2005, 01:40

I think that the phrases "accident, waiting to and happen" seem to apply here.

bikeboyz · Unread post by **bikeboyz** » 21 May 2005, 04:17

Its not just me then that thinks this is a complete bomb! I like the idea of a LPG 2CV though, it would really be more economical that a Qualcast! I also recall seeing a Turbo 2CV on a tv program, was it The Cars The Star? The driver was bragging about giving Volvo drivers a hard time or something.

tomsheppard · Unread post by **tomsheppard** » 21 May 2005, 15:15

Reliant once tried the compact Kubota 3 cylinder diesel in one of their three wheelers. Apart from gearing up to the gearbox, it looked like a good idea to fit it to a 2CV.

adamskibx · Unread post by **adamskibx** » 21 May 2005, 18:11

That Turbo conversion looks awsome-not sure about the rest of it though. If I bought that, I would remove that heating system or improve it if it was going to be handy, get the LPG conversion fully checked out at a specialist converters, and build in some sort of reinforcement and impact protection to any dangerous cannisters. I wonder how you go about putting a Turbo on a 2cv like that-it looks good because the compression turbine joins directly onto the carb with no other pipes- the exhaust end would be the tricky bit to build I should imagine. Ummm might have to try it if I ever get another 2cv.

reblack68 · Unread post by **reblack68** » 21 May 2005, 18:12

Did anybody else notice that the chevrons on the spare wheel cover are at exactly the same wrong angle as the gas bottle?