ZX td goes 150mph

mrbump · Unread post by **mrbump** » 03 Feb 2005, 20:48

Hi,
The speedo in my td volcane has 150 mph on the speedometer, I have now noticed that every other zx td I have seen has only 120 mph. Can anyone confirm this? Does this mean my speedo has been changed at some point for a 16v item?
Cheeers

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 03 Feb 2005, 21:27

My Xantia speedo has 150mph marked on it.
The top quarter of the speedo is just there to taunt us diesel drivers.

weety · Unread post by **weety** » 03 Feb 2005, 22:52

only refer to your speed in kph....makes it sound better (except in court)

VisaGTi16v · Unread post by **VisaGTi16v** » 03 Feb 2005, 23:05

heh maybe. You would need some serious engine mods on your TD lump to hit 150. Either that or a vertical drop off a cliff

BonceChops · Unread post by **BonceChops** » 03 Feb 2005, 23:08

Thats true. Mine hits the rev limiter just above 120mph. Whatever speed that really is who knows. Hopefully I won't get one of those speedo checks through the post confirming it for me.

mrbump · Unread post by **mrbump** » 04 Feb 2005, 02:19

Heheh, I think it is just there to taunt us! Or maybe its there as a percentage error for the mad wobbling speedo needle! A bit optimistic nonetheless. So does this mean other people have the same speedo in their own td volcanes?
I have never had more than just over 120 in mine either. No revs left.[:(] At least kids can peer in through the window and be impressedb by the 241kph top speed of the beast![:D]

VisaGTi16v · Unread post by **VisaGTi16v** » 04 Feb 2005, 03:02

Had my zx 16v doing 137 in france on the flat which is flat out in 5th and the book top speed

Charade, nice, dont see many of them these days, there was one at a couple of sprints last year which did quite well.

louis1 · Unread post by **louis1** » 04 Feb 2005, 03:42

Hi I have had an indicted 140mph in my zx 16v and my TD aura zx also has 150mph speedo in to but have only ever seen 120mph on it.
Louis

mrbump · Unread post by **mrbump** » 04 Feb 2005, 03:43

Thats what I use mine for mainly, and trackdays (or i was doing until I pulled it to bits last year!). In the sprint championship up here the turbo rule is only x1.4, as opposed to x1.7 in the rallying, do the charade makes it into the 0-1400cc class. Im hoping to try and set some records in that class with it. A Metro gti holds most of them. Not any ordinary one though, this one could keep up with cossies most of the way around knockhill! Think it actually doubled in weight if you filled it with fuel!
Interestingly, the rule for diesels in the championship is half the normal capacity! so our 1.9td's would be classed as 952.5cc's [:p], then add the turbo factor of 1.4, and youd be in the same class as my charade at 1333.5cc! Might be worth a bash with the old zx if the charade is playing up one day to see how it goes....[;)]

drpau · Unread post by **drpau** » 04 Feb 2005, 05:23

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mrbump

Thats what I use mine for mainly, and trackdays (or i was doing until I pulled it to bits last year!). In the sprint championship up here the turbo rule is only x1.4, as opposed to x1.7 in the rallying, do the charade makes it into the 0-1400cc class. Im hoping to try and set some records in that class with it. A Metro gti holds most of them. Not any ordinary one though, this one could keep up with cossies most of the way around knockhill! Think it actually doubled in weight if you filled it with fuel!
Interestingly, the rule for diesels in the championship is half the normal capacity! so our 1.9td's would be classed as 952.5cc's [:p], then add the turbo factor of 1.4, and youd be in the same class as my charade at 1333.5cc! Might be worth a bash with the old zx if the charade is playing up one day to see how it goes....[;)]
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Werent the charade gti turbos 100bhp as standard? Sounds like you have doen a fair bit of modification!

VisaGTi16v · Unread post by **VisaGTi16v** » 04 Feb 2005, 15:48

Yer mrbump, I do sprints and hill climbs as well in the modified production class. My friend competed in a standard metro gti 16v last year and set new class records at a lot of places. Had the better of all the ax gt's etc that turned up. There was a mildy tuned charade at Curbourgh running in road going production which beat my friends 1380 mini.
We have the same engine rules down in the South and ive wondered about a tuned zx td but to be honest you cant get enough power out of them. One of the newer VW group diesels would do the job. Only turbo cars ive ever run against were a couple of R5 GT Turbos as they were bumped up to the 1.4-2 litre class due to the 1.4 rule but I beat them in the Visa

mrbump · Unread post by **mrbump** » 04 Feb 2005, 16:47

Yeah, gotta love that 1.4 rule in the sprints! r5's dont handle at all well anyway! Metro's do however, and have the cracking 1.4 16v k series with efi.
Doubt the charade will outhandle it, but it will definately be quicker down the straights! When it was running 160bhp, it had the following done:
Better turbo downpipe,
exhaust,
skyline gtr r32 injectors (3 of[:p])
ecu from ex rally car (Dawson auto developments)
16psi
Thats about it.
Since the uninteneded strip down (stripped a bolt at the back of the block[}:)]) It now has,
bigger turbo compressor (mazda 323),
larger t/b from mr2,
bigger intercooler,
sold ecu, planning to install Mega Squirt ecu instead
Hoping for nearer the 180bhp mark when its finished this summer.[:D]
Also tried to sort the handling for the track with bigger swaybars springs and konis[:p].

oilyspanner · Unread post by **oilyspanner** » 04 Feb 2005, 18:58

Just checked the Volcane, tops out at 120 mph (1993 model) havenot achieved this speed in it though, its the shopping car.
Stewart

VLL · Unread post by **VLL** » 04 Feb 2005, 20:25

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by mrbump

Yeah, gotta love that 1.4 rule in the sprints! r5's dont handle at all well anyway! Metro's do however, and have the cracking 1.4 16v k series with efi.
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In my pre Citroen days, when I was about 21 I had a Metro GTi, the latter one with the Multipoint injection and 103bhp, had the cat removed, K&N fitted giving around 110bhp, and had Spax adjustable shocks at the front + lowered it properly by shortening the rods in the hydragas, know people who just let some pressure out but it made them bouncy.
Anyhows it was pretty damn quick and had go kart like handling...used to rip the pi** out of cars you would assume would be much quicker ie. Astra GTE's, XR2/3i's, Nova's.....had a lot of fun with that car, mmm, reaches for the autotrader!!!

VisaGTi16v · Unread post by **VisaGTi16v** » 04 Feb 2005, 20:54

Oh my friends one is outrageous. It feels like it has so much more power than 103bhp but then when you hit about 80 you start fearing for your life lol. Interesting about shortening the rods in the hydrogas units, he just let a bit of gas out and yes it lent more heh.
Mrbump, im also in a full on rebuild but of the car, not the engine, hopefully thats still fine heh, got the wiring loom in last weekend, im looking at North Weald sprint on April 10th as the first event of the season