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Second last feedback device for the pinball table landed this afternoon.

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Which are played by this trio of solenoids.

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Definitely will sound orders of magnitude better than anything synthesised. Especially as there's a proper sound box for each note involved as well.

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Goodness only knows when I'll get time to install it!

Last thing I've got planned is a pair of shell type bells for the tables which use those rather than chimes. Probably be a while before I get to those though - only a couple of tables which I play which would use them anyway.
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Wow! Get enough and and you could play tunes on it Zel! Love it :D

Puppy still keeping you well occupied?
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CitroJim wrote: 16 Oct 2025, 06:01 Wow! Get enough and and you could play tunes on it Zel! Love it :D

Puppy still keeping you well occupied?
Some of the earlier solid state tables DO play tunes on them when you start a game. I'll provide demonstration of that once it's set up.

And yes. We are very much still in the phase of puppy life where there is puppy wrangling and there's sleep. That's it aside from brief windows while puppy is napping.

Couple of weeks though things should start to calm down a bit though.
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Zelandeth wrote: 16 Oct 2025, 13:13 Couple of weeks though things should start to calm down a bit though.
Fingers crossed :wink: A bit like having a newborn baby in the house!
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Any interest Zel? :-D
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It would have to be very cheap. Problem with the likes of that is that the hardware inside it is all proprietary. So you're tied very much to using what they give you, and the table packs are Not Cheap. Early ones are old enough now that you're getting into territory of the software images not being available if you have a drive failure or similar and need to reinstall things.

I might have taken a punt on it if I hadn't just built one though...probably a cheaper way into the hobby than mine! I will be curious to see what it goes for though. If it's less than a couple of hundred quid probably would be worth it anyway as a chassis for a smaller virtual table even if you gutted it of everything, as the cabinet is probably one of the most difficult parts. Assuming the display (which sounds like it's faulty) isn't an awkward size anyway.
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Maybe you'd need to be a bit of a pinball wizard by the name of Tommy to fix that one...

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Communism meets capitalism once again. What better car to take to Costco?

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Yes I know I also have a big Volvo estate. Don't bring logic into this. The Trabant has really become my go to daily for local work though.

It really is quite surprising how much you can fit in that boot for such a small car. I really had expected a fair bit of the shopping to end up on the back seat but it all fit in the boot.
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It looks lost in that parking space Zel :)
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Pretty sure you could fit three of them in there if you tried!
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Well that was annoying. Chrome has developed an excessively annoying habit of randomly closing a tab when I open a new one. Which when you've just written a bunch of content is immensely frustrating.

Turns out that our new dog excellent taste in entertainment. I've had the TV on in the background most of the time when I've been looking after him or doing training work downstairs. Just as background noise really, both for the sake of my own sanity and because working around distractions is important. Most things have been totally ignored, but the one thing he's been pretty consistently transfixed by during down time has been Dr. Who.

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It's been forever since I've seen a lot of it so I'm using this as an excuse to go back through from the start. I can't really do anything or have anything like my usual technical videos on YouTube that I actually want to pay attention to on, as I'm keeping tabs on a small puppy piranha. So it's a good fit.

In other news another box for the pinball machine arrived this morning. Another expansion board giving me an additional sixteen outputs (and I think eight inputs).

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I knew without this I had precisely enough outputs for the chimes, but that was it. If I wanted to add anything else in the future I would be stuck. So I figured let's just future proof things. I would also have had to shuffle things a bit as the chimes require a high power output and not all channels are equal. Just sticking them on three high power channels on this board would be far simpler.

I actually had a spare hour this afternoon so got that all installed and set up.

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Wiring needs to be tidied up and integrated into the loom but I just didn't have that much time today - and I'll probably wait to do that until I've got the bells ready to go in as well.

Spot the deliberate mistake I made prepping the chime unit for installation - adding the commutation diodes to the coils.

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Yeah, I totally failed to remember that literally everything on the table has the ground side switched and the common being the positive. Derp. So yeah, those had to be de-soldered and flipped around. I realised literally the second I got the third one installed...only took five minutes to sort, but felt like a really rookie mistake.

These are actually 24V coils but we're only using 12V here. They're still plenty powerful enough even running on 12V it turns out, especially in a domestic setting where you're not trying to bash out enough volume to be heard in a noisy arcade.

As expected, it sounds *immensely* better than the synthesised chimes we had beforehand.
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Superb work Zel :D That's going to be the best pinball machine in the world :cool:
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CitroJim wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 05:31 Superb work Zel :D That's going to be the best pinball machine in the world :cool:
That's probably a stretch! Should be good fun though.

Wishlist items to make it as good as it could be would be an OLED display panel for the playfield, but based on the research I did a while ago they simply don't exist in the size I need (40" 16:9 widescreen - and it basically needs to be a monitor rather than TV as the bezel on the TVs always seems to be way too wide, and they were virtually all 1080p rather than 4K). In fact it's a display size that seems to be on the way out in general (especially in non-curved form) so I'll probably be keeping an eye out for another at some point in the not too distant future. While OLED isn't going to happen, a 120Hz hopefully will happen at some point - as you definitely would get benefit from that. Especially on some of the faster tables. Firepower, Last Action Hero and Back to the Future I'm looking at you. Tron Legacy gets an honourable mention as well. Firepower though...yes, having a 120Hz panel would definitely be helpful there.

The best table in the world though in all honesty is a real one. This is a pretty good alternative though, especially as a lot of the tables I'd really have on my top wishlist would be well north of five grand to buy, and we only have room for one. In the future though when we've a bit more space to play with I will probably add one actual table as well. Having this table (which currently has 142 tables installed I think) though means I'm likely to be a bit less picky as to what I'd go for - like that slightly scruffy Flash I saw at Pinfest. That would do me just fine, rather than feeling I had to hold out for one of the real big names, as I have access to a pretty good analogue of the gameplay on all of those tables.

Can safely say that the professionally built ones are probably far less chaotically arranged inside than this thing, especially given I made so much of this up on the fly!
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142 tables... Wow :cool:

Not spoilt for choice there Zel :)
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CitroJim wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 05:42 142 tables... Wow :cool:

Not spoilt for choice there Zel :)
Indeed. Which is why I think a button to just pick a random table is something the launcher software could really use. It's too easy to forget some are in there!
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