Citroen C5 X recharge while driving

[Sloppysod]

Had a little issue last night, opened the boot with the wiggly foot thing, it raised a few cm and then wouldnt close. Gave a 2 beep warning signal. could close on the key Then I slowly fully extended it tried again on the key and the same. Then I pressed the 2 press boot open button and it was sorted. Fine now.

It has a memory feature where you can set the amount it opens.

[DS9]

I've just got to that in the help app, useful to know. At full opening it's a good height for me and I don't bump my head so leave it there.

One more thing that flagged up when I bought is the heated steering wheel and seats don't work below 20 degrees. The manual says the same. I can't test this at the mo as its still 21 here.

What's annoying me at the moment is there seems no easy way to get behind the side walls in the boot where the seat down releases are. If the boot floor has got nothing in terms of sound deadening then I don't think there'll be much of anything behind there too.

Versus the DS9 the doors are different. The DS had heavy thick doors and seemed fine. On the C5x they seem like drums. I think I need to speak to a professional company to do the bits I can't.

Digressing, I went to the London E-Prix this afternoon and they had a DS No8 there. Top of the range with the tan interior. A nice place to sit with the panoramic roof and the light headlining. Felt robust inside but a tad short of my previous DS9. Legroom on the rear was decent but not at DS9 levels. The boot was around 100 litres more than the C5x and a very similar shape except a bit longer. It's a pretty car but after seeing the pics I thought it would be more imposing in the flesh.

[DS9]

Just a random one, has anyone invested £28 in a Haynes manual for a C5X? I can't categorically determine if interior trim removal would be included in the manual so don't really wanna spend the money without knowing.

[DS9]

Had a trip out today with the kid. A slow urban route and used up the last of the traction battery on the way there. Then I didnt esave and just ran it, I suppose here it gives some battery from the hybrid battery under the centre console, the traffic was bad but it still easily managed 30+mpg. With the battery it was showing 95% and 22 miles when I reset the trip a few days ago, it ended up doing 26 miles to empty so like people allude to the range is amiss.

On the way home I was intrigued to see if what was advertised as a free charger was. It was. Plugged in for a bit, did some shopping, got it to 36% and drove home.

One question about the charging plugs. The car is 7kw, does this mean I can use all chargers irrespective of power or just the 7kw ones?

[Sloppysod]

Honestly can't see why you want to use e-save, this uses the petrol engine to charge the traction and hybrid batteries. Charging the Traction battery by the petrol engine will hit your fuel consumption hard, i 'tested' it once on a flat road at 40mph, and the consumption went up by more than 25% - it used more fuel.
The e-save function was in anticipation of congestion charging, if you look behind your rear view mirror, there is a small blue light that glows when in electric mode, unless its been turned off, apparently some countries use this as a congestion charge indicator, the UK doesn't.

Charging.
The car has a 7kW on board charger, that is the maximum charge speed the car will accept. But, all is not equal.

• Granny charge at home from 13amp socket, will charge at about 2.3kW.

• Granny charge at home from 16amp socket, will charge at about 3kW.

• Wall box at home should charge at around the maximum 7kW.

• Away from home 11kW wall box, typically connected to one phase of 3 phase supply, will only charge at 3.7kW.

• Away from home 22kW wall box, typically connected to a 3 phase supply, will only charge at 7kW.

• Anything greater than 22kW will still only charge at 7kW.

Also, your situation may be different, but i do not charge away from home if it's more than £0.50pkW, as running on petrol is cheaper, unless alot of stop/start traffic is expected. Even at home I only use my daytime rate of 26p/kW if I have to, typically I charge overnight at 8p/kW.

[DS9]

Thanks for that, I've taken a copy so I know what's what for future reference. Agree on the 50p Kwh calc generally, a few places around me are a bit less but mainly paid for car parks which kinda defeats the gain.

Getting it for free feels great though, apparently there is also a Sainsburys a few miles from me so I'll give that a go sometime soon.

I didnt ever get the car checked out pre purchase so I've booked it in at Kwik Fit next week for a few checks. Diagnostic, shaker plate, wheel alignment, health and battery check. I'm also having the wheels balanced if they need it, £8 a wheel....just for peace of mind.

[DS9]

We've now got a C5x plug in, done a few long trips and plenty of "commuting" so far not had any issues at all, apart from the My Citroen app is poo

72 plate (Feb 23) Shine plus, with optional heated/cooled seats with massage function and the upgraded sound system

Have tried fully charging while driving, no issues, as well as plugged in at home.

We will be extending the official warrant once its due, and happy that the "Phev" side of things has the added 8 year warranty

Happy to answer an queries

Cheers

I was reading the manual and then went on a hunt for the "seat options" touch screen app in the hope it was specced with massage and ventilated seats. I presume it'd be on the menu when i click on my profile. It doesnt appear to exist for me

[DS9]

Honestly can't see why you want to use e-save, this uses the petrol engine to charge the traction and hybrid batteries. Charging the Traction battery by the petrol engine will hit your fuel consumption hard, i 'tested' it once on a flat road at 40mph, and the consumption went up by more than 25% - it used more fuel.

Here is a thought. If I went for a long run, say 150 motorway miles with B selected, no Esave selected. Is there a way I could get the engine just to run on the engine only and not use up any of the electricity regenerated by using B mode, saving it for the end of the trip? It seems to me irrespective of the mode that if there is any traction battery electrical range available the car uses it.

[garpat32]

We've now got a C5x plug in, done a few long trips and plenty of "commuting" so far not had any issues at all, apart from the My Citroen app is poo

72 plate (Feb 23) Shine plus, with optional heated/cooled seats with massage function and the upgraded sound system

Have tried fully charging while driving, no issues, as well as plugged in at home.

We will be extending the official warrant once its due, and happy that the "Phev" side of things has the added 8 year warranty

Happy to answer an queries

Cheers

I was reading the manual and then went on a hunt for the "seat options" touch screen app in the hope it was specced with massage and ventilated seats. I presume it'd be on the menu when i click on my profile. It doesnt appear to exist for me

To be fair I find the menu system weird to use, but, the seat options it shows heating or cooling and there's a whole option for different types of massage settings

It's the "Hype Adamantium Ambience" option seats, grey type along the tops and the rest black.

The cooling part is great, its the first time Ive ever had a car with that feature

[garpat32]

Honestly can't see why you want to use e-save, this uses the petrol engine to charge the traction and hybrid batteries. Charging the Traction battery by the petrol engine will hit your fuel consumption hard, i 'tested' it once on a flat road at 40mph, and the consumption went up by more than 25% - it used more fuel.

Here is a thought. If I went for a long run, say 150 motorway miles with B selected, no Esave selected. Is there a way I could get the engine just to run on the engine only and not use up any of the electricity regenerated by using B mode, saving it for the end of the trip? It seems to me irrespective of the mode that if there is any traction battery electrical range available the car uses it.

My undertsanding was that if you set off and that trip with a full battery, select esave before you go, the car will use whatever is available but wont let the battery drop below what esave is set to?

So leave with 100%, set esave to 10% or whatever, and the car works as normal but stops using the battery at the set %

I think

this is the type of stuff that went through my mind, and others, when we first got the old GTE phev, but after a while you learn to just let the car do its stuff and not worry about it

[Sloppysod]

Here is a thought. If I went for a long run, say 150 motorway miles with B selected, no Esave selected. Is there a way I could get the engine just to run on the engine only and not use up any of the electricity regenerated by using B mode, saving it for the end of the trip? It seems to me irrespective of the mode that if there is any traction battery electrical range available the car uses it.

Not that I have seen, as i said before, use the On-board Sat nav, and the car will work it out. For me, quite often at the end of a long drive the last 1-2 mile is Electric only, I have cheated though, the Satnav thinks I live 100 or so yards further up the road than I do so I can pull onto my drive quietly.

My undertsanding was that if you set off and that trip with a full battery, select esave before you go, the car will use whatever is available but wont let the battery drop below what esave is set to?

So leave with 100%, set esave to 10% or whatever, and the car works as normal but stops using the battery at the set %

I think

this is the type of stuff that went through my mind, and others, when we first got the old GTE phev, but after a while you learn to just let the car do its stuff and not worry about it

That is correct, but to arrive at a charger, home or other with energy in your battery makes no sense to fuel (Petrol & Electric) economy, especially if you have used the engine to charge the battery.

The only time I use the e-save option is to hold enough energy to run the aircon on either a hot day, or heater on a cold day.
Without e-save, it performs very well as an basic hybrid. However, I'm disappointed that PSA, didn't develop an Atkinson cycle engine for this car., but hey-ho, we have what we have.

[DS9]

Garpat32. I cant find that screen in mine, not even the "Heating and Ventilation". On the infotainment I've played with it a fair bit and find it good, zippy most of the time and does the job.

I like your seats, that would have been my preferred option but the all black I have don't darken the interior as much as I expected due to the light headlining.

On the Electric usage I'd like to have a parameter I could set such as "Don't use electric above 25mph". There seems little point in using the engine to charge the battery and then wasting it as you go along. What I may be inclined to do is on a long trip just use petrol and then 20 or so miles from the end activate esave to 1/4 capacity to give me a bit when tootling around town....and like Stu says to ensure there is enough to run the aircon.

Stu. I dont necessarily think it's a bad thing for the engine to charge the battery per se but definitely is when say cruising at 70 mph say as that electric is being used inefficiently. Am I right in saying with an empty traction battery and esave off it just gives you a bit of electric range from the hybrid battery of a mile or two?

Does the Satnav really work out all the engine usage as you describe? Also I have those connected services for a few months, do you have to pay for it after that?

The genuine bootmat arrived today, pic below. allright for £45.

[Sloppysod]

My experience is the satnav works.
Look at the small yellow triangle on the powerbar (No.7) on the dash, to the right of that the engine is active, to the centre it runs on electric, and To the left it regens.

I suggest, you change either the centre screen, or the dash configurations to show the little car, (No.6), this will give you a visual indication or what's happening when.

The engine will cut in and out according to engine load and environment, ie hills, down hill, engine could be off, battery being charged by regen, on the level it switches between botph, however. up hill, the engine will cut in when needed and possibly some electric assist.

Even, without the satnav working the car will behave the same, but not as efficiently. My opinion is the car always wants to use the battery first, unless being controlled by the satnav, but when the satnav is in play, it makes sure the battery is fully depleted and the end of the programed journey.

As for the seat, you have the same as me, standard seats, whereas @Garpat32, has the cooling seats.

[garpat32]

As for the seat, you have the same as me, standard seats, whereas @Garpat32, has the cooling seats.

Cooling AND massage

[garpat32]

Garpat32. I cant find that screen in mine, not even the "Heating and Ventilation". On the infotainment I've played with it a fair bit and find it good, zippy most of the time and does the job.


The genuine bootmat arrived today, pic below. allright for £45.

The seats screen is within the "applications" section

And where did you get the boot mate, all the ones Ive seen say "not for hybrid"