C5 X7 Hydractive 3+ Possible Fault

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Re: C5 X7 Hydractive 3+ Possible Fault

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GiveMeABreak wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 15:54 The Xenons are great for going round the Welsh countryside at night with the directional lighting.

I would forget trying to upgrade the lights on these - there's just too much to do and I've not known anyone attempt it because of the expense and time involved.

So, from left to right in the picture:

The Dynamic Bend Lighting - unlike your car which will use a standard H7, mine uses the pain in the A*s HP19W bulbs - these will be my next project in converting these to LEDs - but I will need suitable resistors for these particular lights and they are also a PITA to get free with little room to get to.

Next are the directional Xenon's - these work perfectly for me - I upgraded the stock Xenon bulbs to the Osram Nightbreaker Unlimited Xenarc at £130 for the pair - so I am now a lighthouse on wheels with main beam on at night - excellent range. :-D

Then there are the 'Side Lights' - the innermost position of the cluster. These are a weird type but basically take a W5W stock bulb - yeh, right! Those went straight away, and I now have some of these that I have just fitted. I'll try and get a picture later on for you to see at night:
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The design of the light housing and reflector prevents head-on glare as the beam is scattered behind and around, with the front of the bulb blocked by the silver dome you can see in my original picture. So it gives a good dissipated white colour without dazzling oncoming traffic.

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Sounds good, I'm very jealous, the cheapskate who speced my car didn't bother with xenons, the nav or massaging seats :o

Am I right in thinking that the daylight running lights are of the G4 fitting type?
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:-D You're right, what a tight ar**!

Yes, you are correct, the bulb holders need modifying too. Have a look at my post here, that summarises with the link to my DIY post 8-)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56757&hilit=Hp24w#p515745
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 22 Jul 2017, 20:08 :-D You're right, what a tight ar**!

Yes, you are correct, the bulb holders need modifying too. Have a look at my post here, that summarises with the link to my DIY post 8-)

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=56757&hilit=Hp24w#p515745


Yeah.. the inconsiderate swine! new car buyers should really be more considerate towards the eventual owners of their cars :rofl2:

Hmm, looks like a bit of a nightmare to change the DLR's :(

Do the halogen clusters with the newer LED DLR's from the facelift C5 fit the pre facelift C5 without any other issues? they do look a bit cooler anyway :wink:
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You can do a retrofit Elis - Vborovic did this as a project here - although a bit 'all over the place', but here are the 4 main topics covering this.:
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46502&start=105#p451179
viewtopic.php?f=3&t=46502&start=120#p453295
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Re your question on the Power Steering systems on the X7 Elis:

Both yours and my cars have items 13 and 19.
13 is the BHI (Built-in Hydroelectronic Interface), housing the ECU and pump for the suspension system. 19 is the Electric Pump Unit incorporating the ECU. This provides varied assistance as a function of Vehicle speed and the
Speed of rotation of the steering wheel.
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Re the steering rack issue: The area we talked about is circled - this is where water can collect and start rusting.
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Thanks Marc, thats great, I'll give it a good greasing tomorrow :dom:

Wow, so my car has variable powered steering? that's why it can feel super light around car parks but give good feedback on fast roads? thats great!
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It does the job nicely, but I do miss the Diravi self-centring steering from my CX, but we can't have it all!

She's a great smiley old madam whiplash there!
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 23 Jul 2017, 00:42 It does the job nicely, but I do miss the Diravi self-centring steering from my CX, but we can't have it all!

She's a great smiley old madam whiplash there!


Haha, I've been trying to find an excuse for that smiley for a while now, and the thought of greasing something up was close enough :lol:

Ah yes, I read something about the Diravi thing, apart from self-centring what else did it do?
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It made a really weird slooshing sound as it turned and centred when you let it go again - could turn it with your little finger!
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 23 Jul 2017, 04:04 It made a really weird slooshing sound as it turned and centred when you let it go again - could turn it with your little finger!


Sounds like fun..... any practical benfit? :P

Extracted a sample of my LDS.... does it look a bit off?

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That looks OK to me but then it has been years since I added any.
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myglaren wrote: 23 Jul 2017, 14:34 That looks OK to me but then it has been years since I added any.


Great.

I can't explain how much better the car rides with the correct level of LDS in the reservoir but it seems much "floatier". As someone new to hydractive suspensions, I thought the ride was good before but nothing amazing, now I feel the car is giving a superb ride, especially on potholed roads. Also, the difference between "sport" and normal is more distinct now.
I can’t believe Citroen have given up on their USP for the new models…. It’s sickening!
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Yes, a sad day for all for all us hydropneumatic Hydractivists!
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GiveMeABreak wrote: 24 Jul 2017, 16:07 Yes, a sad day for all for all us hydrpneumaticists!



They should have at least had a French state funeral where the remaining spare parts bin of spheres and struts are set alight with gallons of LDS on a pyre before being buried!

But on a serious note.... are Citroens just badge engineered Peugeots now?
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Sacre Bleu! Far to valuable to burn those spares - I hope to have mine on the road for another 100 years at least!

They would tell you they have a different design team and vision - but really most of the tech is shared across the PSA group - and DS Automobiles I don't doubt, although they are 'supposed' to be a separate outfit now.
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