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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Lada Riva, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

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Finally!
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We have high tensile 3/8" bolts...they screw cleanly into the threads in the hub, which is good.

So once the remaining one has been drilled out we should be able to get things sorted out.

On the plus side, even without that I can now at least stick the wheel back on to roll the car out of the garage with the three bolts, which will make getting the engine analyser in/out of the garage. This is a good thing as it basically needs to be rolled through the middle of the space the car currently occupies.
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Zel cracking van, i really like it.
A couple of concerns with the plumbing of the heater having been used to them in HGV's as night heaters.
Yes they are very quiet, but noisy for someone who is a light sleeper :(
The air intake side can be prone to blockages due to small debris particularly fluff tissues etc.
I would not use the silencer depending on how far from the sleeping area the exhaust vents, they are noisier from the outside regardless of silencer, it is all about the noise inside the cabin but from outside it is not like a fridge motor running or a motor bike doing donuts.
A simple stainless steel heat shield will enable you to have the exhaust pipe higher up and give better ground clearance as to me it hangs a little low.
As for the white smoke yes they all do it if they have air/fuel issues and have not been run for a while and yes it does take a little time for it to clear.
Glow plugs are easy to find but they tend to have the wires soldered on with a plug on the other end so a slotted socket is best to remove them.
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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Lada Riva, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

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Longer term the exhaust will probably be routed better, though for the time being it will have to do. Need to use the van this week so have had to get things to a state they can be left be for a bit. The silencer is just an expansion box do doesn't impede flow any more than the equivalent length of pipe. It's quite obtrusive outside without it fitted, to the extent that I could definitely see it bothering folks on an adjacent pitch at a camp site. With it fitted it's not bad. Good to know the intake is sensitive to debris, I've got an old (huge) K&N cone filter floating around somewhere which I'm sure can be repurposed into a better solution than the crude screen it came with. Given the size of the thing it won't affect the breathing I'm sure. Easy to add cleaning that to the regular service regime.

Ground clearance shouldn't be an issue, especially that close to the wheel. If I've put that vehicle into a situation where that's an issue for a vehicle like this I'm doing something wrong and probably going to take half the lower skirt off!

If it was as low as a modern van then yes I'd worry...however the ground clearance on this thing is better than most modern off road vehicles, so it should be fine.

Exhaust wise I may well look to set it up with a rigid system made up of old car exhaust offcuts in due course. Mainly as the wider diameter should help bring the temperatures down a bit at end of the system. If/when that happens it would probably be routed to follow the path of the vehicle system probably (tailpipe is basically directly opposite the heater on the nearside).
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I wonder if it could be worth putting a few coils of copper tubing around the exhaust pipework, and then having that run into the hot water system?
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Re: Zel's Fleet Blog - Xantia Activa, Lada Riva, Sinclair C5, Mercedes 208D, AC Model 70.

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Hell Razor5543 wrote: 10 Nov 2019, 17:55 I wonder if it could be worth putting a few coils of copper tubing around the exhaust pipework, and then having that run into the hot water system?
I've heard of someone who basically used a diesel EGR cooler in reverse for that very purpose.

The water heater is a tankless one and very effective...so I'm probably just going to leave it alone. Would involve quite a bit of plumbing too...currently aside from about a foot of pipe from the tank, all the supply pipework is inside the van. I'd rather keep it that way.
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Zel i know it may sound strange but apart from the phut phut as the heater starts up, from the outside once it is running it is really not noticeable, it kind of blends into the other sounds of stuff going on around. It is something that would not wake me up where as a cat fighting squeal does.
And yes they do heat up the area very quickly, just do not leave your slippers near the outlet unless you like them roasty not toasty first thing in the morning :)
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Does seem quiet enough.
On my way to work in -35°C there were loads of cars running Eberspächer heaters that were very noisy, a distinct roaring sound like a big propane space heater. Ran on timers to warm the car up ready to drive to work.
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Just curious what the issues folks see with the use of a silencer?

Sure I've heard of folks using moped type exhausts on these too.

The biggest noise issue with this one seems to be an almost turbine-like high pitched whistle, in addition to the roaring...which I can clearly hear from the front door of the house, which is a good 25-30 metres away. Just really sorry that I'd bother anyone camping next to me.

It's not an issue inside my van, which seems to be really pretty well insulated in terms of sound, I was really quite surprised how loud it was when I opened the door to be honest.
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Today I got to spend six and a half hours driving this piece of automotive excrement.

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Never been a Transit fan anyway (always been a Merc man...not that that should be a surprise given the driveway!)...but this thing, despite having less than 40K on the clock has quite the defect list. Clutch is shot. No synchromesh on 5th or 6th...not that 6th is worth having as it hasn't enough power to maintain 60mph in it on the level. Tracking is so far out it makes the Lada look stable. Heater doesn't work. Stereo doesn't work. The roller door opens a good foot and a half less than the height of the load bay...no proper tie down points in the back for once you eventually get stuff in. Rubbing salt in the wound, managed 18mpg over the 160ish miles. Plus it was filthy.

Next time I'll just be hiring from Enterprise. Thought I'd have Sixt a try as they've opened up a centre that's a 20 minute walk from our house...but I sure won't be doing that again. Enterprise have earned my loyalty over the last ten years.

I also keep making the mistake of expecting it to take me the same amount of time to get places down here as it did back up north...so I keep underestimating journey times by about 50%...and the general degree of stress involved by several orders of magnitude.

Anyway...what was I renting a van for?

Getting this home, that's what.

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Only *nearly* killed me and my husband getting it through the door. Hiring a van with a tail lift was definitely a good call. The console itself is *just about* a two man lift so long as you don't need to go very far.

It looks to be in exceptionally good shape for industrial gear of its age...if rather filthy.

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A quick wipe down has helped turn it back the right colour.

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The flipdot indicators in the buttons are a lovely touch and the sort of detail you just don't see these days.

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Anyone able to get a date out of the serial number?

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I do have all of the leads, probes, timing strobe etc. Just removed them for transit as the boom is unwieldy enough without it swatting me in the face with cables every five seconds. Manuals and a load of data sheets as well.

This thing very much meshes my automotive and vintage technology restoration hobbies...so I'm really looking forward to getting stuck into it. Apparently it has been working recently, though I'm expecting it to need a bit of TLC. Shedload of vacuum tubing will want changing anyway at the very least.

Everything else aside though, isn't it just a gorgeous bit of industrial design? Know the modern version will have massively wider functionality and be a quarter of the weight... won't have half the style though!
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It looks absolutely gorgeous. Can you pick up Radio Luxembourg on it ? :-D
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bobins wrote: 12 Nov 2019, 13:34 It looks absolutely gorgeous. Can you pick up Radio Luxembourg on it ? :-D
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Had hoped that I'd get a chance to look properly at the Sun 1215 today but instead was running around like a headless chicken all day. Managed ten minutes before I first went out and a half hour before shutting down things for the day though.

I would usually do quite a few checks on an old bit of kit which has been out of use for many years before applying power, but just went with a brief sanity check with the Megger for any leakage from the power supply to the case (mainly because I didn't want to have to reset my overly twitchy RCD again) before showing it some power. My logic here was that the seller told me they had it running to demonstrate to a prospective buyer a few weeks ago and that it was obviously in use in the not too distant past; the last PAT safety certificate dating from 2005.

Flicking the switch resulted in all the right noises, though nothing from the light over the display. After a few seconds though the displays themselves came to life.

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Judging from the condition of the CRTs, it doesn't have a huge number of hours on.

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The photo actually makes this look less sharp than it appears in person.

It's apparent that we do have some issues. The computer display keeps cutting in and out, so that will need to be investigated. Also don't appear to have any vacuum at the intake for the gas analyser despite being able to hear the pump running - not surprised there as I'm expecting those hoses to all need changing. Very promising start I'd say.

Then I had to disappear out all day...only having a spare half hour at the end of the day. Figured that should be enough to tackle one fault though. The dead light above the displays...was figuring this was probably just a dead tube.

The light looks easy enough to get into - Just three machine screws hold the trim strip under the light on. Removing that started to reveal quite why this thing weighs as much as a small country.

It's a bit of trim...just needs to be a bit of chromed pressed tin...instead we have this!

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Must weigh a couple of kilos. If the rest of the machine is this over-engineered we shouldn't have many problems.

The plastic diffuser is quite a snug fit, so I didn't try to move it any further than I needed to get to the tube.

Given the US connection with this machine it wasn't a huge surprise to find an F30W T12 tube of US origin in there, despite them being a pretty rare sight over here.

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The thought occurred that this could be the original tube, but a quick look at the date code shows it to be from 1995, so it's obviously been replaced at some point.

I only had one 3' tube on hand, a yellow Narva which I'd had in use at Halloween...not something I could leave in there but it should prove the ballast to be good or not at least.

It does seem to be just fine - and quite an aggressive instant start one at that given the tube was lit while only halfway through being inserted.

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The only T12s I have in 3' form are coloured (nice Atlas Double Life green ones), but I knew I had half a dozen or so new old stock Cryselco 30W T8s in stock somewhere. Part of a batch of tubes found by the demolition crew taking down my old work building and sent my way as they knew I was into old lighting gear. Poor old building may be flattened, but it's still giving! Lighting in my garage is all from there too.

This should do nicely for the lighting in the Sun 1215 though.

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Yep...seems to be working just fine.

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Everything buttoned back up...looks the business now I think...nice to see the colours are still so vibrant and haven't faded.

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With a bit of luck I might actually get a chance to get a better look at it tomorrow afternoon. Really want to get the back cover off, at the very least I should be able to get the production date pinned down properly then.
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Tomorrow we'll be heading up to Livingston for an event, and the van has been designated as the pack mule for the weekend as we've not a small amount of stuff to take with us.

There's also a car enthusiasts meetup while we're there...so I really needed to tidy up a bit.

Between tools, parts for a variety of cars, bottles of LHM, building supplies and rubbish I must have dragged 200kg of stuff out the back. A quick run over with the vacuum cleaner had things looking vaguely presentable.

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Really would have liked to give it a wash and to wipe down the interior plastics, but time was against me.

Nearly forgot that the windscreen and wipers needed a clean...which is slightly awkward as this is the furthest you can reach from ground level without standing on (or falling off) the bumper.

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Will be amusing to see how many smears I've left doing that in the dark in the morning.

Other than that... I've checked the tyre pressures, coolant, oil, topped the screenwash up and checked all the lights. We're about ready to go.

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Well...after we throw all the stuff in the back anyway.
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If it is of interest Lidl are doing (amongst other things) a Nextbase 112 dash cam for £25 on 24/11/2019.

https://www.lidl.co.uk/en/p/christmas-t ... cam/p27453
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Well let's just say that today wasn't the ideal day to be driving a tall vehicle with brick wall aerodynamic properties and less than 80bhp northwards. Torrential rain for the first few hours and strong, gusty head and sidewinds the whole way.

This resulted in horrendous fuel economy and slow progress.

Also one unscheduled pit stop to investigate a horrible clattering/rattling noise. Turned out that the roof lights were taking exception to dealing with 40-ish mph headwinds and were popping open.

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Cable ties to the rescue. While I wouldn't say quiet progress resumed...but progress without any horrible noises suggesting that parts of the van were about to distribute themselves all over the M6.

Got there in the end, though we had to fuel up after 170 miles... usually expect 250 or thereabouts on a tank.
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