XANTIA HDi RUNNING ROUGH

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CitroJim wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 05:17 Hope you can sort this Roger. I admire your happiness to dive deep into the ECU to try to resolve this :) You may be overthinking it though and your hunch of an intermittent winding is most likely the cause...

Those little solenoids can measure Ok when de-energised and then fail after being energised for a while before appearing to return to normal when they've had a bit of a rest.
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I think I’ve gone as far as I can go with the ECU. I’ve looked how that TLE4226G can be tested and whilst that is easy enough, it would be time consuming only to possibly find that it is sound and then you move into the next likely culprit. The board has many vias (for via read rabbit hole as you do not know where they can pop up).

To test properly, I am guessing that you have to know what the inputs and signals need to be on what pins to emulate an engine idling. You could then theoretically plug in a Lexia on a bench and read it as though it were an idling engine.

Then there would the question of being able to read, interpret, modify and/or verify any HEX code which may have been previously written to the ECU by someone who may have wanted the immo switching off or even the 3rd piston deactivation solenoid disabling.
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Have I done a Quantum Leap? How has this gone from a cylinder head rebuild to a solenoid?
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moizeau wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 15:30 Have I done a Quantum Leap? How has this gone from a cylinder head rebuild to a solenoid?
Skull’s- HDi head assembly
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No you’re quite sane moizeau 8-[ Just about anyway …

Just a bit of a :offtopic: tangent thrown ….the head has gone back on today ….jeez I had to extend my torque wrench with an axle stand tube just to get the necessary leverage to manage the angle torques ….done ….
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moizeau wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 15:30 Have I done a Quantum Leap? How has this gone from a cylinder head rebuild to a solenoid?
:rofl2:

My fault entirely!
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Skull wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:39
moizeau wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 15:30 Have I done a Quantum Leap? How has this gone from a cylinder head rebuild to a solenoid?
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No you’re quite sane moizeau 8-[ Just about anyway …

Just a bit of a :offtopic: tangent thrown ….the head has gone back on today ….jeez I had to extend my torque wrench with an axle stand tube just to get the necessary leverage to manage the angle torques ….done ….
That's looking nice!

Correct thickness for new gasket as previously mentioned?

Do you think we'll be on for the GRAND DEPART this weekend?
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Looking good
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Rhothgar wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:51 That's looking nice!

Correct thickness for new gasket as previously mentioned?

Do you think we'll be on for the GRAND DEPART this weekend?
Yes - 1.35mm gasket (2 notch)
and
No - dog sitting a limpet of a Cocker Spaniel for a week won’t be able to do much but will clean up inlet manifold /coolant outlet and try dressing the camshaft dink anything else will be the week after ….
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Skull wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:39 ….jeez I had to extend my torque wrench with an axle stand tube just to get the necessary leverage to manage the angle torques ….done ….
Naughty, I hope you mean you used the tube to extend your breaker bar for the angle tightening? Not strictly good for a torque wrench to use it for angle tightening as it can overload it and affect calibration.

Sorry for being a nitpicking nigel lol, the autism can lock onto random comments like a pitbull on a steak! :rofl2:

Glad to hear it's going back together all the same, video of the first start upcoming? 8-)
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ekjdm14 wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 17:41
Skull wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:39 ….jeez I had to extend my torque wrench with an axle stand tube just to get the necessary leverage to manage the angle torques ….done ….
Naughty, I hope you mean you used the tube to extend your breaker bar for the angle tightening? Not strictly good for a torque wrench to use it for angle tightening as it can overload it and affect calibration....
No that's a fair point ekjdm I should have highlighted the context .... I have an old 1/2" drive 400mm torque wrench that is 'set' for my alloy wheels to 66 Ib/ft due to the fact that it doesn't adjust anymore, and I also have a 3/4" drive metre long breaker bar but not the necessary adaptor to downsize the drive size ...and nothing inbetween.... so I had to improvise an extension on the dodgy torque wrench... my Mrs suggested a hoover pipe but I doubt she'd have been happy with the result :lol:
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Skull wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:59
Rhothgar wrote: 05 Feb 2026, 16:51 That's looking nice!

Correct thickness for new gasket as previously mentioned?

Do you think we'll be on for the GRAND DEPART this weekend?
Yes - 1.35mm gasket (2 notch)
and
No - dog sitting a limpet of a Cocker Spaniel for a week won’t be able to do much but will clean up inlet manifold /coolant outlet and try dressing the camshaft sink anything else will be the week after ….

How manky is your inlet manifold? It’s a job I need to do on mine. Will you be using the ‘firestarter’ method? 😁

I think it was MattBLancs who did a post on it.

Looking forward to it.
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That head is looking absolutely lovely Gary :cool:
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Hello, head arsonist, you called :rofl2:

EGR pipework clean out:
viewtopic.php?p=784253&hilit=Fire#p784253

I'll find the DW10 inlet manifold cleaning image shortly

Edit: here we go:
viewtopic.php?p=731043#p731043
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Cheers MattBLancs

I didn't think mine was too bad :?:

Skull's - HDi Intake manifold
Skull's - HDi Intake manifold
but soon caught fire ...
Skull's - HDi Flame on
Skull's - HDi Flame on
There's a lovely video of my garden instead of what I wanted my wife to video :roll:

In other news there's a boot full of parts to clean ....

Haynes mentions that Citroen recommend auto joint noir :?:

Can anyone recommend an equivalent engine sealant for the camshaft bearing cap casting and probably the cylinder head cover :?:
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I've used this for the last three cam cover changes i've done and it works very well: https://www.lymmengineparts.co.uk/fai-r ... vers-sumps :)
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Cheers Mick :wink:
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