X7 front upper arm - inner bush replacement

[Hell Razor5543]

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

...and I totally agree with robin, anything from ECP has to be viewed with absolute suspicion in my personal opinion as the evidence of poor, DOA, wrong, broken, incorrect parts on this forum alone from many members is having used them is alarming.

Erm, I think my name is James, not Robin.

[bobins]

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

For the same reason Total sell both LDS and Fluide DA when they are the same product ?

[myglaren]

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

...and I totally agree with robin, anything from ECP has to be viewed with absolute suspicion in my personal opinion as the evidence of poor, DOA, wrong, broken, incorrect parts on this forum alone from many members is having used them is alarming.

Erm, I think my name is James, not Robin.

Not any more, Robin!

[Hell Razor5543]

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

...and I totally agree with robin, anything from ECP has to be viewed with absolute suspicion in my personal opinion as the evidence of poor, DOA, wrong, broken, incorrect parts on this forum alone from many members is having used them is alarming.

Erm, I think my name is James, not Robin.

Not any more, Robin!

We are not going to have this argument AGAIN, are we, Richard?

[myglaren]

[GiveMeABreak]

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

For the same reason Total sell both LDS and Fluide DA when they are the same product ?

But that was replaced and they are no longer selling LDS apart from old stocks, Fluide DA was a direct replacement as far as I can see.

[jgra1]

thanks all, I think

I have a theory: probable long term rack leak, plus losses during this work, have dropped the level to low (even after adding 1L)

*I have misread the levels in the past (the gauze seems to capture residual oil, making the level look ok when it isn't)

I haven't used the MVCHF that was bought, but have ordered some bottles of Syntex. These may take an age to arrive

Why I didn't change the rack whilst I was doing these bushes is a question for another day.. (there wasn't much side space for starters)

The landlord has his trolley jack back (a proper workshop one, unlike mine) - front wheels have timber underneath now.

John
* lessons learnt etc etc

[GiveMeABreak]

Good luck with the investigations John

I just find it odd that Comma have Both these products listed on their website and if they are the same, why?.....

...and I totally agree with robin, anything from ECP has to be viewed with absolute suspicion in my personal opinion as the evidence of poor, DOA, wrong, broken, incorrect parts on this forum alone from many members is having used them is alarming.

Erm, I think my name is James, not Robin.

Not any more, Robin!

Be thankful if wasn't Shirley...

[jgra1]

3 Litres was needed to get back to the correct level!.. (how much does the system hold?)

at least it's back together

will now peruse the many rack threads … as there is a leak for sure at the pinion.. it's not so bad as to drop onto the road below, but I guess it's just a matter of time..

I suspect I am doing a litre every 10K, but it's academic really.

The job of changing the (perfectly fine!) 4 upper inner bushes wasn't too bad really. It takes some time but if I had to do it all again right now, I think I could manage it all in a weekend.

I cut the ABS leads.. I am sure I could have disconnected them somewhere in the engine bay, but just couldn't be bothered.. re-soldered back together and heat shrink and outer covering.
The caliper fits through the gap between the strut and the lower arm, as long as the carrier isn't removed, and after driveshaft set to one side.
I removed the discs part way through, at the whole assembly is heavy enough and having discs out of way helps visibility through the job.
the disc cover-plates also get in the way a bit, I would remove these at the very beginning. (I would make sure some penetrating fluid is on the small bolts a few days before)
I did both sides at same time, in future I may just do one side completely then swap.

nothing else to add really

[Stijn]

Hi, does anyone know if the tool required for replacing the bushes (both upper bushes) are for sale. The tool numbers are mentioned in the job dscription but i don't find anything online

[GiveMeABreak]

You can often find equivalent tools on the aftermarket, but Citroen generally do not sell their tools outside the dealer network. As you're probably looking at an internal document not intended for public use, that will be an internal reference for the tool. Their tools are often sold in sets or kits, so would not be feasible generally.

So you'll have to google for the tools by trial and error until you see something that resembles what you are after.

[Stijn]

Thanks Marc, i have find one for the lower silent block. However, that seems to be the only one. Has anyone already tried to replace the upper bushings? I find a lot of topics concerning the lower ones (seems to be a common issue on these cars), but it is very quiet when it comes to the upper ones.

[GiveMeABreak]

Have a look at this post. There are some diagrams showing the front suspension geometry /axle parts.

https://www.frenchcarforum.co.uk/forum/ ... =3&t=57486

[Stijn]

Thanks Marc.

I was looking for that topic since it lists the orga numbers when the alu frames started. I think a good place for me to start is the dealer and hear if they sell separate bushings. If not then it will depend on the prices for the part.