Xantia Evilness

[CitroJim]

Do you have access to a trailer? I would offer to pop up to you but I feel that this car needs to have time spent on it maybe over several days plus whenever I do a job anywhere but home there's always a tool or obscure part I forget to take with me I can't do anything for a few more weeks due to recovering from back surgery but I think by the end of the month I should be back in reasonable circulation.

That sounds like an excellent scheme to me Be well worth the cost of trailering it down Tim and if you go for bids on uship or shiply it may work out quite reasonable in cost too...

And, it goes without saying, I'll be happy to lend a hand too - I've done a few gaiters in my time as well as handbrake cables...

[tim leech]

Thank for the offer Richard, I do have access to a trailer, I will give the throttle body a whirl which robert is sending first, if still no joy I will try and get the car down to you.
Many Thanks

[jgra1]

nice offer from DG and Jim, and very helpful from Robert

great forum this..

I would help you Tim, but I would be a bit slow to figure this one.. and i am too far, and i have a holiday on Thursday somewhere hot and full of 'testy' flies (bank is paying, hope they dont mind!)

I did have an S2 mauritious blue 1.8 as my first or second Xant.. it was never quick to accelerate, but was as fast as needed, once there, and a nice straightforward drive. I did go and get a V6 afterwards though

John

[tim leech]

I moved her to my mums today as her drive is more spacious, weird that it started perfectly and ran fine on autochoke but soon after it was hesitant and wouldt pull unless I gave it a boot full, which is different again from yesterday!

[imperial21]

Could the car have a faulty coolant temp sensor for the ecu ? Had a similar fault on a polo, The car was nightmare to start when cold etc

[tim leech]

Could the car have a faulty coolant temp sensor for the ecu ? Had a similar fault on a polo, The car was nightmare to start when cold etc

Same before and after a new temp sensor was fitted, car starts first time from cold every time without any cranking.

[Dommo]

Is it possible to do another compression test to see if all cylinders have compression? I know some XUD9 engines have had camshaft failure where the camshaft break due to a cam belt failure, the pistons and valves are parallel to eachother so rather than bending valves they just crack the shaft!

Could be completly on the wrong track here but if it had camshaft failure and has no compression in one cylinder, I'd have thought you wouldn't notice as that cylinder wouldn't cause any resistance, the engine just wouldn't be very powerful?

[tim leech]

Is it possible to do another compression test to see if all cylinders have compression? I know some XUD9 engines have had camshaft failure where the camshaft break due to a cam belt failure, the pistons and valves are parallel to eachother so rather than bending valves they just crack the shaft!

Could be completly on the wrong track here but if it had camshaft failure and has no compression in one cylinder, I'd have thought you wouldn't notice as that cylinder wouldn't cause any resistance, the engine just wouldn't be very powerful?

it runs too well i think to be a compression issue I think and pulls quite well when on choke. Also its probably done less than 1000 miles since the head was rebuilt/skimmed.

[tim leech]

Barry from Bourne Citroen Centre rang me today and remembers there being a problem with these cars when new and he had a bulletin from Citroen themselves (as per CitoJim mentioning it last year), and he told me that wire 23 in the wiring loom needs to be CUT which will sort the problem. Fingers crossed!

Going to to try the throttle body and fuel regulator first though!

[DickieG]

Barry from Bourne Citroën Centre rang me today and remembers there being a problem with these cars when new and he had a bulletin from Citroën themselves (as per CitoJim mentioning it last year), and he told me that wire 23 in the wiring loom needs to be CUT which will sort the problem. Fingers crossed!

Did we not do that last year at the Midlands rally?

[tim leech]

Barry from Bourne Citroën Centre rang me today and remembers there being a problem with these cars when new and he had a bulletin from Citroën themselves (as per CitoJim mentioning it last year), and he told me that wire "23" in the wiring loom needs to be CUT which will sort the problem. Fingers crossed!

Did we not do that last year at the Midlands rally?

Could have been! that was an earth wire?, if it was it didnt do any good.

[tim leech]

The throttle body is different (thanks though robert), but have fitted the fuel pressure regulator and cleaned the existing throttle body out with injector cleaner (it was filthy), for another trick the engine check lamps came on today aswell, then went off again, but it still runs crap, lumpy etc , I am so fed up, I think im going to just park it up and let it gently go back to nature.

I never thought I would say this but Xantias are crap!!

Anyone got BX petrol bottom pulley as thats the last test to see if the timing's out.

[robert_e_smart]

Thats a bugger Tim. This one came from a 1999 car.

[tim leech]

Thats a bugger Tim. This one came from a 1999 car.

Mines a 94 Robert, so they probably changed a few things, but thanks for trying anyway mate, did you want me to post it back to you?

Tim.

[Chris570]

quick question, i take it it has been on a lexia to compare the ecu values with real ones? i.e. coolant temp, your auto choke comment intrigues me and i know you say the sensor has been changed but what if there is a dodgy wire/solder/join that causes the resistance to be off causing a duff reading? another question is do you know that the EML works?

sorry if this is nothing new but i didnt see reference to it (may have missed it though)