They won't invent self-driving motorcycles so I'll be still riding if I can still walk!
Self Drive Cars
-
Michel
Re: Self Drive Cars
They won't invent self-driving motorcycles so I'll be still riding if I can still walk!
-
NewcastleFalcon
- Posts: 26399
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
- x 7162
Self Drive Cars..Autopilot V9
I thought it was interesting a couple of months ago when Elon Musk announced that problems with the Model 3's braking performance would be fixed by a "Software" update.
No army of mechanics, and engineers tweaking the "hardware" of the braking mechanisms and components and metaphorically getting their hands dirty.
Its the same sort of thing with TESLA's Autopilot.....full self drivng capability comes courtesy of...a software update.
“To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features,” Musk tweeted on Sunday, referring to the latest version of the Autopilot programme, in response to a Twitter user.
Whether we like it or not cars are becoming more and more a tech product heading the way of smartphones but lets hope there remains the car equivalent of the £1 phone on PAYG which does texts and calls and not much else for the likes of me!
Regards Neil
No army of mechanics, and engineers tweaking the "hardware" of the braking mechanisms and components and metaphorically getting their hands dirty.
Its the same sort of thing with TESLA's Autopilot.....full self drivng capability comes courtesy of...a software update.
“To date, Autopilot resources have rightly focused entirely on safety. With V9, we will begin to enable full self-driving features,” Musk tweeted on Sunday, referring to the latest version of the Autopilot programme, in response to a Twitter user.
Whether we like it or not cars are becoming more and more a tech product heading the way of smartphones but lets hope there remains the car equivalent of the £1 phone on PAYG which does texts and calls and not much else for the likes of me!
Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
687 Trinity, Jersey
-
white exec
- Posts: 7445
- Joined: 21 Dec 2015, 12:46
- x 1750
Re: Self Drive Cars
"Please do not apply brakes or move the steering wheel during the Software Update . .. ..." 
Chris
-
GiveMeABreak
- (Donor 2016)
- Posts: 41989
- Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
- x 6956
Re: Self Drive Cars
And if the firmware update gets interrupted, you brick your car!
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.
Marc
Marc
-
jrc5
- Posts: 22
- Joined: 12 Aug 2014, 12:15
- x 1
Re: Self Drive Cars
I want a self driving van. I could get an extra 2 hours snooze on the drive to work.
But as for a personal car.... I'm not sure.
But as for a personal car.... I'm not sure.
-
Hell Razor5543
- (Donor 2023)
- Posts: 14266
- Joined: 01 Apr 2012, 09:47
- x 3277
Re: Self Drive Cars
Michel wrote: 17 Apr 2018, 19:31
They won't invent self-driving motorcycles so I'll be still riding if I can still walk!
20180412_083316.jpg
Did you ever see the series "Street Hawk"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Street_Hawk
James
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
ex BX 1.9
ex Xantia 2.0HDi SX
ex Xantia 2.0HDi LX
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.0HDi VTR
ex C5 2.2HDi VTX+
Yes, I am paranoid, but am I paranoid ENOUGH?
Out amongst the stars, looking for a world of my own!
-
NewcastleFalcon
- Posts: 26399
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
- x 7162
Re: Self Drive Cars
Looks like drivers will have to be trained how to use (semi) autonomous cars too!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-444 ... orting-map
Regards Neil
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-444 ... orting-map
Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
687 Trinity, Jersey
-
myglaren
- Forum Admin Team
- Posts: 28453
- Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 13:30
- x 5588
Re: Self Drive Cars
OOps! ^
-
andy5
- (Donor 2022)
- Posts: 434
- Joined: 05 Nov 2010, 13:40
- x 103
Re: Self Drive Cars
That could be a person not a third car.
Pedestrian steps into the road, first driver swerves the car round, second hits.
Pedestrian steps into the road, first driver swerves the car round, second hits.
-
xantia_v6
- Forum Admin Team
- Posts: 10735
- Joined: 09 Nov 2005, 22:03
- x 1346
Re: Self Drive Cars
Although to be fair, most human drivers would have reacted in a similar manner.
-
Pug_XUD_KeenAmateur
- (Donor 2018)
- Posts: 1168
- Joined: 22 Apr 2013, 17:24
- x 228
-
GiveMeABreak
- (Donor 2016)
- Posts: 41989
- Joined: 15 Sep 2015, 19:38
- x 6956
Re: Self Drive Cars
I'm not so sure - with a human driver (well in my case anyway) I keep eyes ahead, but also look through the windscreen of the vehicle in front where possible and also keep more to the right of my lane so I can see ahead of the vehicle in front - this is not something an automated car can do. It can't anticipate and cannot see as far ahead as the human eye can IMO.
Now the issue is very clouded as noted in the video - once over the 'trust' issue, will drivers become complacent and forget about their responsibilities - come on - for goodness sake are we in control or not and if we are still supposed to be in full control, what is the flipping point in the first place. You may as well just stick with safety aids and leave the driver in control. That Tesla in the second run did not even look as though it was even attempting to slow down, yet alone stop.
No thanks Mr Musk, perhaps you should go into the perfume market instead.
Now the issue is very clouded as noted in the video - once over the 'trust' issue, will drivers become complacent and forget about their responsibilities - come on - for goodness sake are we in control or not and if we are still supposed to be in full control, what is the flipping point in the first place. You may as well just stick with safety aids and leave the driver in control. That Tesla in the second run did not even look as though it was even attempting to slow down, yet alone stop.
No thanks Mr Musk, perhaps you should go into the perfume market instead.
Please note, I'm no longer active on the Forum, so won't respond to messages.
Marc
Marc
-
NewcastleFalcon
- Posts: 26399
- Joined: 25 Feb 2009, 10:40
- x 7162
Re: Self Drive Cars
Baidu "mass producing" Buses without steering wheels.
An "Internet Service Provider" wasn't even a job when I was growing up....nevermind one that also makes buses!
Regards Neil
An "Internet Service Provider" wasn't even a job when I was growing up....nevermind one that also makes buses!
Regards Neil
Only One AA Box left
687 Trinity, Jersey
687 Trinity, Jersey
-
myglaren
- Forum Admin Team
- Posts: 28453
- Joined: 02 Mar 2008, 13:30
- x 5588
Re: Self Drive Cars
Not self-driving but pedestrian avoidance systems.
-
van ordinaire
- (Donor 2017)
- Posts: 2537
- Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
- x 402
Re: Self Drive Cars
. . . & that's with the system working! Of course, as we all know, computers are hopelessly unreliable - & when the one that controls EVERYTHING your car does crashes . . . . !
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"
'81 2CV Club
'05 C15
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS
& the numerous "abandoned projects"