xantia drive shaft seals

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.
User avatar
van ordinaire
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 2537
Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
x 402

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by van ordinaire »

Never known an oilseal come out in bits - but doubt it explains the noise. 8-[

b-t-w; seems this changing avatars is catching. :wink: :wink:
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club :cry:
'05 C15 :!:
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate [-o<
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3 :?
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS :|
& the numerous "abandoned projects" #-o
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54626
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8115

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by CitroJim »

van ordinaire wrote: b-t-w; seems this changing avatars is catching. :wink: :wink:


Always good to have an avatar refresh every now and again ;) I like yours Van...
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
User avatar
van ordinaire
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 2537
Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
x 402

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by van ordinaire »

I've only just discovered them, but the 1st was just too small.

Thanks, I'll look out for another, relevant one, to steal.
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club :cry:
'05 C15 :!:
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate [-o<
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3 :?
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS :|
& the numerous "abandoned projects" #-o
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54626
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8115

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by CitroJim »

van ordinaire wrote:I'll look out for another, relevant one, to steal.


Mine is all my own work - except for the picture I cropped it out of - that was taken by a professional...
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
ekjdm14
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 1943
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 17:42
x 250

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by ekjdm14 »

I've never bothered with an avatar on here yet, although just had an idea of one I could "knock up" out of a couple of pics of our Xants' :D
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 29k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 88k
'98 406sw 1.9TD, Cherry Red, 197k
'98 306 1.9D, Cherry Red, 180?k
'98 Ford Fiesta 1.3i 72k
'93 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9i 135k
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54626
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8115

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by CitroJim »

Looking forward to seeing your Avatar Dan ;)
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
User avatar
van ordinaire
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 2537
Joined: 23 Jun 2015, 14:45
x 402

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by van ordinaire »

Oh, oh - seems like we may have a good thing going! :-D

b-t-w, I do have a picture of an Indonesian C15 (they have nudge bars) which I was going to use but I couldn't edit/re-size it because it's protected. #-o :cry:
Citroens:-
'81 2CV Club :cry:
'05 C15 :!:
'97 Xantia Exclusive estate [-o<
others:-
Jeep XJ Cherokees x 3 :?
'96 Cadillac Eldorado
'99 Cadillac STS :|
& the numerous "abandoned projects" #-o
ekjdm14
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 1943
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 17:42
x 250

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by ekjdm14 »

Hmmm, for the size/resolution it'd need surely you could screenshot it & crop that? ;)
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 29k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 88k
'98 406sw 1.9TD, Cherry Red, 197k
'98 306 1.9D, Cherry Red, 180?k
'98 Ford Fiesta 1.3i 72k
'93 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9i 135k
davoxx
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 513
Joined: 02 Jan 2011, 23:40
x 15

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by davoxx »

while I do like a good avatar ... I like getting the correct drive shaft seal better!!

The one in the middle is what came off the car, the one to the left and right are the ones from gsf.

Does anyone know what is the correct part so I finally put this car back together?
Attachments
IMG_20170607_093014683.jpg
why?
User avatar
xantia_v6
Forum Admin Team
Posts: 10733
Joined: 09 Nov 2005, 22:03
x 1346

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by xantia_v6 »

If you use gravatar.com to upload your avatar, it will do the resizing etc, and you can keep a gallery of them, and select the one that suits your mood.
ekjdm14
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 1943
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 17:42
x 250

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by ekjdm14 »

I'd suggest the one on the right of the pic is the correct one, but either there's something missing from it or there's a housing that's come out attached to the old one... :? Sorry I can't add much more than that, except to say that I did read somewhere that there was 2 types of seal, one with the "cage" thing and one without & in that instance the caged one was correct.
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 29k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 88k
'98 406sw 1.9TD, Cherry Red, 197k
'98 306 1.9D, Cherry Red, 180?k
'98 Ford Fiesta 1.3i 72k
'93 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9i 135k
411514
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 423
Joined: 14 Dec 2010, 15:26
x 40

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by 411514 »

My guess would be that neither are correct. I had the same issue with my C5 which seems to use the same (or very similar) seals. I ordered one from GSF, and they sent the wrong one (most like the one on the left of your picture). I have lost all trust in GSF for supplying small components (bolts/nuts/seals/bearings etc) as they just seem to put their hand in a parts bin and send a part at random.

The correct replacement should have the metal collar of the original. This is needed to correctly seat the seal. I found that the only place to get the seal when I needed it was the Citroen dealer, and I recall that it was not massively expensive (from memory around £15).
Sam

2003 C5 2.0HDI 110
ekjdm14
(Donor 2020)
Posts: 1943
Joined: 19 Jan 2015, 17:42
x 250

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by ekjdm14 »

Sam's probably right actually, now I look closer the new seal's "cage" is not identical to the old. New one has 12 "teeth" whereas old has 15... If it's a dealer only part then at least it's not as exorbitant in price as, say, and EGS release bearing!
'95 Xantia LX 1.9D-auto, Black, 118k
'97 306 XS 1.6i, Blaze Yellow, 29k
'96 ZX SX 1.9TD, White, 88k
'98 406sw 1.9TD, Cherry Red, 197k
'98 306 1.9D, Cherry Red, 180?k
'98 Ford Fiesta 1.3i 72k
'93 Ford Granada Scorpio 2.9i 135k
RichardW
Forum Treasurer
Posts: 12449
Joined: 07 Aug 2002, 17:12
x 1435

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by RichardW »

Post up the VIN, and I'll check the correct part number. I think the new seal to the right is correct; I don't think that metal bit is supposed to have come out....

The Ball joint can be a pig - Mandrake and I have just fought with one on his car - get the proper socket; mount the hub in a good vice; make sure the staking is relieved; secure the socket with a nut on the end of the ball joint thread; get plenty of heat on the joint; get a very long bar; swing hard and pray!

If the CV is suspect, which is sounds like it is, then you might as well fit a new one whilst the shaft is out - it will be much easier on the bench. They can be had very cheaply from J and R CV joints - I've had one on my 307 for over 20k and it has been fine.
Richard W
411514
(Donor 2017)
Posts: 423
Joined: 14 Dec 2010, 15:26
x 40

Re: xantia drive shaft seals

Unread post by 411514 »

If the seal is the same as the C5, which it looks to be, it will be part number 3121 24, replaced by 3121 65.

http://service.citroen.com/docapv/affic ... ct=FCT0015

As shown in the drawing, the metal collar is integral with the seal.
Sam

2003 C5 2.0HDI 110