Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS NFP!

This is the Forum for all your Citroen Technical Questions, Problems or Advice.
User avatar
Xaccers
Posts: 7654
Joined: 07 Feb 2007, 23:46
x 185

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by Xaccers »

Yes she's S2
1.9TD+ SX Xantia Estate (Cassy) running on 100% veg
1.9TD SX Xantia Hatchback (Jenny) running on 100% veg for sale
Laguna II 2.0dCi Privilege (Monty)

DIY sphere tool
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54642
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8123

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by CitroJim »

citroenxm wrote: OR, bite the buillet and swap the pinion valve for an S1 valve...
No need, you can swap the feed pipe boss on the pinion valve. The boss just screws in (21mm socket needed IIRC) and thus you can convert between rubber seal and flare with ease...
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
citroenxm
Fallen Hero
Posts: 8061
Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
x 70

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by citroenxm »

You are joking Jim??!!! if i knew that i simply would NOT of messed with brazing ! wish you had told me that sooner.. :-(
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
User avatar
Xaccers
Posts: 7654
Joined: 07 Feb 2007, 23:46
x 185

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by Xaccers »

citroenxm wrote:You are joking Jim??!!!
That would have been a brazen lie ;)
1.9TD+ SX Xantia Estate (Cassy) running on 100% veg
1.9TD SX Xantia Hatchback (Jenny) running on 100% veg for sale
Laguna II 2.0dCi Privilege (Monty)

DIY sphere tool
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54642
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8123

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by CitroJim »

citroenxm wrote:You are joking Jim??!!! if i knew that i simply would NOT of messed with brazing ! wish you had told me that sooner.. :-(
Oh, I'm so sorry Paul :oops: Mind you, it might not have helped as the pipes are very model-specific and your donor one may well not have fitted without a lot of faffing around due to the differences at the pump end and that end of the pipe is not very amenable at all to being bent into new shapes without cracking and thus causing further grief...

Look at it this way; you've now learned a valuable skill in brazing that's going to be increasingly useful.
Xac wrote: That would have been a brazen lie ;)
Oh Xac, that's terrible and it's not making me feel any better for letting Paul down so badly :twisted:
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
citronut
Posts: 10937
Joined: 29 Apr 2005, 00:46
x 94

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by citronut »

citroenxm wrote:You are joking Jim??!!! if i knew that i simply would NOT of messed with brazing ! wish you had told me that sooner.. :-(
think of it this way Paul you have learned a new trick :shock: :twisted: :roll: :wink:
Regards, malcolm.

current ride a BX 1.7 TZD estate
1986 MK1 BX 1.9na D Auto(in Mothman Andy's stable )
layed up roppy 1.9TD XANT estate, now gone to meet her maker
purple and lilac metalic 2CV(VIOLET)registered to her in doors
1972 DS special been layed up aprox 31 years
citroenxm
Fallen Hero
Posts: 8061
Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
x 70

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by citroenxm »

no Malcolm.. i bloody haven't! i couldn't braze the two damm parts to save a life! the two pipes just wouldn't go no matter how clean i got them..

i got soo peeeed by it i decided to take my last complete s2 pipe off the last spares car..

upon removal this one too broke through rust!..

so i ended up dooing what i CAN do.. join with union and straight line joiners .. this last pipe broke on a straight part not on the curved part where the others had.

so moral of this got the pipe all joined up with unions and its all up and running.

Luckily the PAS pipe is 4.5mm and I have 4.5 dies. the only other pipe that is 4.5 is the front to rear brake feed pipe..

Subject now closed. I hope i don't need to do another in the end. Three weeks to sort it from trying S1 pipes and pinion valve conversions to ending up back with a s2 fitted pipe with pleanty of underseal on it...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54642
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8123

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by CitroJim »

Paul, when you come down to lay spanners on my XM I'll teach you how to braze properly... Bring the remains of your bad pipes with you and we'll make a good 'un for you :wink:
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
citroenxm
Fallen Hero
Posts: 8061
Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
x 70

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by citroenxm »

Hi Jim.. Im thinking of a day trip or something when yur ready .. ill leave here at 7am spend a few hours with you then come home..on a Friday or something..
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54642
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8123

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by CitroJim »

citroenxm wrote: ill leave here at 7am spend a few hours with you then come home..on a Friday or something..
Sounds excellent to me Paul. Nominate a Friday and off we go :-D
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...
citroenxm
Fallen Hero
Posts: 8061
Joined: 30 Dec 2004, 23:10
x 70

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by citroenxm »

Okay will do.. ill be in touch...
Sharing a pug 207 1.6 hdi Sw 16v.
M reg Xm 2.1 td auto exclusive S2 269k and rising
L reg XM V6 12v SEi auto .. Light project

A very sad...
1994 XM 2.1 d auto
User avatar
CitroJim
A very naughty boy
Posts: 54642
Joined: 30 Apr 2005, 23:33
x 8123

Re: Hdi xantia s2 PAS pipe nightmares TAKING NOTE?? PIPE IS

Unread post by CitroJim »

citroenxm wrote:Okay will do.. ill be in touch...
Great stuff Paul
Jim

A bit of a Citroen AX fan...