Cleaning up the Rear Beam

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Cheers, Addo, I'm just wondering how to get them off.

Progress:

Cleaning up the rear beam:

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Beam painted up:

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Work started on cleaning arms:

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'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp

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You're keen! I'd have just dropped a crate of bits off at the sandblaster after giving them a caustic soda bath. (The parts, not the sandblaster fellow. :roll: )

New caps should be barely more than a tenner the pair. I'm assuming P/N 3740.18 is correct. Looking at them will inspire with the confidence needed to replace old ones.
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Thanks Addo, but that appears to be the cover for the hub bearing, not the arm bearing. I can't see the arm bearing cover anywhere on servicebox :(
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'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k

'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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I took a closer look this evening, I peeled back the cover I'd split with the hammer. Unfortunately it's a integral part of the bearing, so to replace the cover, I need to replace the bearing :( It would be tricky to repair in such a way that I could be confident that a repair would last and not cause damage, so I think I'll be going the whole hog and replacing the bearings.
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp

'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k

'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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This thread seems to have lost a couple of replies! Did something happen?

Anyway, progess:

Lots of new bits collected/delivered:

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Got the old bearings out easy enough, just took lots of heat, a big hammer and a centre punch. I put the new ones in the freezer overnight, and then heated the arm. I thought they would be a nightmare, but they whacked on very easily:

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Beautiful......

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The only tricky bit was judging how far to whack in the outer bearing, as it doesn't have any resting place as such. I just measured the distance between the sleeve and the front bearing, when the sleeve was against the rear bearing and made the new one the same. I hope that's accurate enough!
'96 405 1.6 GLX with 306 GTI engine on Cat cams @ 195bhp

'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k

'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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Very excellent work Ally :D :D
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The day has finally come, the beam is finished :bd:

May I bore you all with some pictures:

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All the peripheral items are new, and mostly genuine Pug stuff.

Without a doubt this has been the most challenging task I've ever attempted on a car. I can see why even a tooled up engineering workshop charges £500 for a job like this. Absolute nightmare. Unfortunately the Pug is buried under snow right now, but the next task will be getting the underside of the car cleaned up, de-rusted and painted.
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'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k

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That all looks better than new Ally, should last a lifetime now.
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Good work. I replaced those "U" flex lines in-situ and they were challenging! Lots of hosing after, to flush off spilt brake fluid.

Haynes actually have a useful point (provided it isn't too late) - capping the brake reservoir with a double layer of cling wrap under its screw lid does help prevent siphoning out where the proportioning valve mounts.

Australia being the place it is, there is only a light haze of surface rust on some parts of my 405's beam - the rest is still painted as new.
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Ally, that's brilliant work. I can see you ending up with a concours-winning 405 in the not too distant.

You really do have a talent for this sort of stuff :D
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Thanks very much guys :oops:

The temperature is a comparatively tropical -1 today, I might man-up and get out there to start work on preparing the underside.

What triggered all this was I had a brake line burst on me :shock: As addo says, replacing the flexi hose in situ was very difficult, and the nut rounded off. As dropping the axle was easy, I originally did that to improve access, but one thing led to another and I've ended up rebuilding the whole damn thing. I can't help myself :roll: Interestingly there is no brake balance valve fitted to this car, which is a good thing, as no doubt it would be another item needing attention.

A concours-winning '96 405 diesel Quasar special edition....keep that to yourself Jim, otherwise I might have throngs of classic car collectors breaking down my door!
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evilally wrote: A concours-winning '96 405 diesel Quasar special edition....keep that to yourself Jim, otherwise I might have throngs of classic car collectors breaking down my door!
And why not :D It would make a very refreshing change from hordes of MGBs and the like that are usually seen at concours events!!!
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EA, have you dropped the fuel tank yet?

It's on my list of 405 jobbies due to leaking (original 1990 :shock: ) petrol hoses, and I've only got Haynes plus commonsense to guide me. Just wondering if there are any pitfalls.
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Hi Addo, I haven't dropped the tank yet but will have to in order to get access to the brake lines that I need to replace. Looks straight forward enough, remove exhaust, exhaust heat shield, undo hand brake cable, remove down pipe, then it should just be a case of unbolting the thing and dropping it down. In my case the bolts are just blobs of rust :(

I was out today under the car, and to be frank the level of corrosion is concerning :frown: It's really knocked the wind out of my sails right now if I'm honest.
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'05 RenaultSport Clio 182 Cup, 102k

'97 406 1.9TD, 314k.
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Bugger. I think the tank straps are NLA, but for sure we could post over an uncorroded set if needed.

Much of the 405 is still available as panel sections; it's more the time/inconvenience of repairs. Even a number of the NFP parts are still gathering dust on shelves if you push hard enough for an answer.

Once you drive a 405 again, you'll remember why you're doing this...