xantia estate

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 22 May 2007, 19:55

It's a manual petrol 1905 and according to DVLA it's tax is due in October '07...

LeeDJC · Unread post by **LeeDJC** » 22 May 2007, 20:16

I've just had a long forage through Google, and I can only find the 4x4s with the 1.9i 8v engine, not the 16v

nick · Unread post by **nick** » 22 May 2007, 20:57

The BX 4x4 was only available with the 8 valve 1.9 engine (carb for the estate, injection for the Gti hatch) in the UK.

I don't know if they made a 16V 4x4, but Britain, or even Britton

, never got them.

Unread post by **philhoward** » 22 May 2007, 21:40

Engine number apparently CW7R0501601 if that decides if its a carb or injection..

LeeDJC · Unread post by **LeeDJC** » 22 May 2007, 21:42

Wouldn't it be easier just to look at the engine?!?

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 22 May 2007, 21:54

Guess if you're really interested you can talk to the seller and see the car;
would be worth making him an offer out of ebay - this has worked for me
before without the hassle of bidding. Why else do sellers say it's
"advertised elsewhere and may be withdrawn from sale."

Andrew

ACTIVE8 · Unread post by **ACTIVE8** » 23 May 2007, 00:20

andmcit wrote:A Citroen, that's an estate AND 4x4!!

Here's a rare bird:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RARE-Citroen-BX-4 ... dZViewItem

Where's Britton BTW - is it a district in Peterborough of something!?

Andrew

In the listing it states "THOUGHT TO BE ONLY 1 0F 2 LEFT IN BRITTON" well if that's true

then that's odd as I have seen the other one.

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 23 May 2007, 00:32

To give him his due - at least he knows it's rare and is billing it from
that 'angle'.

I think I've only EVER seen another 4x4 BX and it was a cloudy sun
bleached red estate. This one looks straight and smart in silver with
its flush wheeltrims.

Not really my thing, but interesting all the same. The late ones seem
like they were screwed together better from what I've seen. Some on
ebay of the same era do appear to have some rust issues though. In a
world of 'me too' deja vu design the Bx does have a unique "diferentness"
about it that stands out in a typical old school Citroen quirky way. The
Xantia for me is a handsome well designed car but is a victim of it's own
popularity with them every few hundred yards...

Pal of mine has a mint low miles '92 17 TXD BX and he loves it - he
realises he'd get nothing for it were he to try and sell it but doesn't use
it much - he says his Xantia is less tinny and feels more substantial
around him though it is obviously a lot slower (he uses a 1.9 TD).

Andrew

David W · Unread post by **David W** » 25 May 2007, 08:44

Jamie, If you have £1000 max to spend and don't want big bills in the future then any car is taking a chance... even Japanese.

That BX 4x4 (just 6 miles from me as it happens) is an enthusiasts car that could have you in despair with hard to source parts and high repair costs. I do like that carb engine TRS trim estate version though.

We have both a Xsara TD hatch and Xantia TD SX estate. I far prefer the Xantia 99% of the time. As an estate it works really well with a large loadspace not spoliled by suspension intrusion like some makes. The real plus for me is how the self levelling comes into play with load carrying in an estate.

Mine was about the figure you mention for a 1999 SX. This has working air con/climate control, multi-change CD player, auto wipers etc etc.

As you comment on future repairs you may be interested though.....

I bought mine as a trade sale from a dealer who had put a years ticket on it and was due to offer it at retail with no further repairs. I went in with my eyes open and in the first two months of ownership this is what it needed to get into A1 running order...

Service, new gearbox/clutch, front brake pads, rear spheres, rear height corrector. Next month I will replace the remaining three spheres and fit a set of tyres.

At garage prices those repairs would have equalled the car's cost!!

However I absolutely love the car and probably wouldn't change it for anything else if someone dropped £10,000 in my lap tomorrow. Great ride, refined cruising, fuel consumption as good as as our Xsara, great sound on the CD audio, cold aircon, nice handling with the rear self-steer axle which I find works better on the estate... mine even has the Trafficmaster lady in the dash who has a chat now and again.

Good luck,

David

davek-uk · Unread post by **davek-uk** » 25 May 2007, 09:19

If you're tight for cash then a Citroen is a good buy. The chances are that anything you get will want some work and tidying to be in tip-top condition. What you must consider is whether you are able to do the work yourself or whether you will be relying on garage prices. I've owned my Xantia TD for 3½ years now and put very nearly 100k miles on the clock. It still performs superbly and hasn’t missed a beat. It has cost a bit more to maintain than a plain sprung vehicle - but doing all the work myself, I'm looking at parts costs only. I'd wholeheartedly recommend a Xantia to someone who can do the work themselves, but I'd tell anyone to steer clear if they cannot. This advice goes for any hydro Citroen as garages generally don't understand them. If you desperately want a hydro Cit then the Xantia is a far better buy than the older BX or XM, Xantias are quite well put together for a Citroen!

Are you still thinking of that BX 4x4? Good luck...

Unread post by **philhoward** » 25 May 2007, 09:36

If MPG isn't your main concern, then don't rule out a petrol Xantia. Just because they're not the TD version they're worth next to nothing so you could pick up a beauty for well under 1k.

As has been said - if you're handy with a set of spanners, then they're cheap to maintain. If not, then they're not.

Only problem i know with Xantia estates is the door hinge mounts tend to fall off for some reason...

Find a good one with a bouncy ride and a set of spheres will transform it. I'm not a fan of LHM showers, so have had 2 cars re-sphered at Westroen in Manchester (£25/sphere fitted).

Xaccers · Unread post by **Xaccers** » 25 May 2007, 09:40

That's just it, I can't think of any other car where someone with hardly any mechanical knowledge can renew the suspension for £80 and take no more than a couple of hours.
Wouldn't dream of renewing the suspension on a steel sprung car myself.

Unread post by **Peter.N.** » 25 May 2007, 12:47

The TD BX will knock spots of the Xantia for performance, due mainly to its weight , or rather lack of it, it must have been the 'hot hatch' of its time. My wife had a TZD td estate for some years and it would out accelerate my XM!

mugatea · Unread post by **mugatea** » 25 May 2007, 21:23

Thanks for your replies. I do like the xantia a lot. I do a lot of motorway driving and would love a big cruiser. I've put my xsara in the paper for £1100. I'm beginning to think that was too high and I should maybe expect £900 or so.

Its great that you can pick up citroens so damn cheap but not so good when you have to sell them on cheap.

Thanks again.

Jamie

andmcit · Unread post by **andmcit** » 25 May 2007, 21:59

mugatea wrote: I do a lot of motorway driving and would love a big cruiser.

The xantia is OK but a car that is vastly superior on any motorway
is the XM!! I would jump into an Xm over a Xantia for a comfortable
effortless blat from one end of the country to the other ANY DAY!!

Ok I can hear the keys being rattled now as other posters here will say
they're an older and more unreliable than the Xantia but I completely
disagree!

I run several in different guises from petrol V6 24v's to TD's and the
only bugbear I would mention is heater matrixes which are actually
easier to fix compared to the one found (or more like NOT found!!) in
the bowels of the dash in a Xant. I dread the day when one goes on
one of my Xantiae - others have scrapped their car when this fails...

Anyhow, wishing you success with the sale of your Xsara!!

All the best,
Andrew