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leonardo · Unread post by **leonardo** » 21 Jun 2005, 15:03

For all of you you have cars withour air con and sweltering, can I recommend a product to make you feel really keep you and your car cool:
Magicool. (I'm not a salesman for them). http://www.magicool.uk.com
A canister costs less than a fiver.

citroenzx · Unread post by **citroenzx** » 21 Jun 2005, 15:04

ah yes the one with the p**n style advert

Kowalski · Unread post by **Kowalski** » 21 Jun 2005, 15:37

Is this just R134a mixed with water, in an aerosol can?

Unread post by **alan s** » 21 Jun 2005, 15:44

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Is this just R134a mixed with water, in an aerosol can?
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if it is, I'd suggest also using asbestos for snuff as 134a has been shown to cause testicular cancer so possibly ideal for anyone with ambitions of joining the Vienna Boys Choir on a long term basis.[:D][}:)]
Alan S

drpau · Unread post by **drpau** » 21 Jun 2005, 16:24

Very cheap adverts- they been using the same one for the past 5 years I think! Isnt there a donkey or a camel involved doing a strange gurning face at the end - maybe that bird is doing something with the aerosol can that she shouldnt !>?[;)]
I realised at weekend that aircon was staying on all the time and had a look on this forum - turns out that if you have the blow directed at windscreen it keeps your aircon on all the time. Doh, bet this has cost me an arm and a leg in juice!
Wonder what is cheaper in terms of fuel economy- having A/C on low or having standard blowers on full pelt!?

Evodad · Unread post by **Evodad** » 21 Jun 2005, 17:05

Where is it shown that 134a gives you cancer?
It is used now as a replacement propellant for CFCs in asthmatic inhalers & intensive toxicology work was undertaken before the US FDA allowed this to happen.

fastandfurryous · Unread post by **fastandfurryous** » 21 Jun 2005, 17:09

The fan motor on just about any car draws about 2 amps, which is 24w. This is about 0.032 HP, which is not a lot. An aircon compressor usually takes between 2 and 5 HP to drive it, so the difference is probably well over 100x!. The interesting comparison is the additional drag caused by driving with the windows open. In some cars, at speed (say 60mph) this can be well over 5hp difference, so in that case it would be more economic to have A/C on rather than open the windows.