How i made the C5 more comfortable

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Patxi
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Sorry Alexx, but not until i get a decent digital camera... these were taken with my mobile's camera.
Close-ups are way too much unfocused.
alexx
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Ok, Francisco, doesn't matter, just wanted to see the details. If you get a camera once in the future, please post a close-up photo.
Did you test the car with 'new spheres' on tarmac and other bad surfaces?
Patxi
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Only on tarmac, as i posted above.
But our roads are almost rally courses... [:(] holes everywhere and stuff.
On our capital, Lisbon, the ground just colapses once in a while. Once, one such ground collapse "swallowed" a turism bus. Luckily, it was empty.
So, inspite of not having it tested on earth courses, the tarmac test is not much different.
i'll try to get some nice pictures.
Those off you coming to the Euro 2004, be aware! [:P]
BTW, Jon, if you read this, please note that the side glass windows can withstand a very large punch. Yesterday, while on the traffic lights, one big SOB just got out of his car, tryed to force my door (always locked...but i need to put a reminder of unlocked doors) then threw a punch on the window. I went out some 2 hours later and bought myself 2 baseball bats; one for the C5 and another for the Pug. Just in case...
Never get out of the car on these situations! One never knows if these hooligans have knives of guns with them.
Take care guys!
DoubleChevron
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<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">BTW, Jon, if you read this, please note that the side glass windows can withstand a very large punch. Yesterday, while on the traffic lights, one big SOB just got out of his car, tryed to force my door (always locked...but i need to put a reminder of unlocked doors) then threw a punch on the window. I went out some 2 hours later and bought myself 2 baseball bats; one for the C5 and another for the Pug. Just in case...
Never get out of the car on these situations! One never knows if these hooligans have knives of guns with them.
Take care guys!<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">
Road rage is everywhere, lose the baseball bats, you'll be done for pre-meditated assault if you ever use one of them (unless you actually actively play baseball).
seeya,
Shane L.
PS: I heard those big heavy club locks that you lock on you steering wheel are good ... They won't stop your car getting pinched, but they are very heavy and bloody hard ... I sure wouldn't want to get hit with one [;)][:o)]
Patxi
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The weather cleared, and the roads are dry.
Well, as expected, with the front shock softer than the rear ones, the car behaves , on very sharp turns (half turn + of the steering wheel, 40~50km/h), with oversteer. For someone used to it, the correction is easy and smooth.
On normal, calm driving, (say, 70km/h) diverting from a cat (for example) crossing in front of you presents no big change of the car's behaviour (the body just leans a bit more).
You can't have it all [:D]
Patxi
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I want to add a thought:
Thinking about my first days with the C5, still with original spheres, and how it behaved in turns, especially while braking, i would also blame the auto-directional rear axle for the added oversteer. Braking in turns seems a bit like it used to be (but always waiting for the rear to start to spin).
Any way to keep it solid? [?]
Bye!
alexx
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Unread post by alexx »

No problem, just weld the rear subframe to the body.
Just kidding - almost every today's car have rear subframe mounted on elastic rubber mounts, like C5, and many of them have also additional self-steering efect, provided by geometry of rear axle, like twisted beam (P307, Golf IV, Megane II, C2, C3 etc) or multi-link (Focus, Mazda3 & 6, Golf V, A3 Mk II - all sharing exactly the same construction). In my opinion, Xsara is the only car with (far) too much self-steering.
Patxi
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It just might work! I think i know a guy who welds aluminium! [;)]
Ok, here's some pictures of my C5:
(To moderators: if you believe these pics shouldn't be here, please let me know before deleting the post.... [:)])
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"Look Ma, i just bought my self a Land Rover!"
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This is one of the few cars that look very, very beautifull in white (my opinion) [:I]
Thanks guys!
PS: Know, if only i knew the rear spheres damping data...the HPi versions have front spheres with the same pressure...[:D]
Oh well, maybe a sack filled with sand can help break down the damping a bit...
bencowell
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I love the Xsara rear self steer effect, it was always spot on in my 1.4 1999 model.