Falcon's Bargain Basement Motoring

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A Bit of research leads me to believe that might be a connector made by TE Connectivity......

Not necessarily this particular one, but it's of the same design.
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... N4mw%3D%3D

Also, similar, but different.....
https://www.mouser.co.uk/ProductDetail/ ... %2Fg%3D%3D

You can have a browse at their catalogue - I've got it set to '2 position' (i.e. two pole) in the search terms.....
https://www.te.com/en/plp/automotive-co ... =false&q2=

You might strike lucky and find the right connector and be able to do a part number search and find somone selling individual ones.
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Thanks Bobins, when the new knock sensor arrives it would be better to wire it up with a suitable connector rather than my Health Robinson arrangement and they do supply the connectors in quantities of 1 for not very much!
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Saw this lying around, so decided to fit it. Bit of a looser fit than the old one, so out came the gaffer tape for a bit of clagging down just for good measure.

I know if given a decent revving its very responsive and has plenty of poke. My goals for the Clio are very modest though, nothing more than a smooth non-chuggy take up on a gentle progression through the gears changing up at around 2000 revs, and for most of the rest of the drive flicking between 4th and 5th as necessary.

Some progress on that front on a training drive for the new sensor/ECU. The out run put up P0130 within a couple of miles. Stopped, cleared it and it never appeared again. Purposely went for a smooth progression up to fifth on each restart and the Clio started to feel "normal" "Acceptable" "OK" in that aspect of driving. Put £10 of Shell V-Power in and half a bottle of Redex, and I am just about beginning to think it may have a beneficial effect. More in cleaning up the tank crud or in tank pump/filter crud rather than in "cleaning 'clogged' injectors" which I am sure Shell V-Power pulsating through at 50psi/50 times/second even at 2000 revs will take care of itself.

Those who enjoy a bit of maths could maybe fact check that! (I took is straight form an AI question.!)
A couple of new bits arriving from Autodoc, (O2 and Knock Sensor) but that's going to be about it.

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Doubt if 50 psi is high enough for any fuel injection. Willing to be proved wrong though.
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This is where I got the 50psi (3.5 bar) bit from Paul.

The D4F is a manifold injected petrol engine, with Multi point Injection with one fuel injector per cylinder
NewcastleFalcon wrote: 02 Apr 2026, 10:29 From my well thumbed through Haynes (sans covers now...)

D4F Fuel Pressure regulator control pressure 3.5 Bars Plus or Minus 0.06 bars
Fuel Pump Flow Output 80-100 litres/hour at 3.5 Bars fuel pressure.
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Ah, I forgot about the early attempts. Out of interest, is that single or multi point injection?
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Multi Point Injection, one fuel injector per cylinder discharging into the plastic air intake manifold! at the inlet ports.
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Never quite got round to passing my de-pinning automotive electrical connectors badge, hence the current heath robinson arrangement.
I note on a trawl round of these things that the connectors of the type required are often referred to as "Junior Power Timer Connectors" and occasionally come with "Pin Sets", grommets and wire terminations you assemble yourself. like this
https://www.almsolutions.co.uk/terminals-connectors/junior-timer-connectors/full-connector-kits/2-way-junior-power-timer-connector-kit-with-terminals-seals
https://www.almsolutions.co.uk/terminals-connectors/junior-timer-connectors/full-connector-kits/2-way-junior-power-timer-connector-kit-with-terminals-seals
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Sometimes I have to wonder if designers make things far more difficult than needed for the job in hand, simply to protect their own existence!! When you look at it the plug introduces 3 potential fault areas for each wire. Feed wire to its pin, pin to socket and socket to distribution wire means three junctions where you only need one, wire to wire. Make the wires longer and bring back soldering I say!!! :-D
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In the vain quest to "just pop down to the scrapyards of Ashington and West Sleekburn and chop off a knock sensor connector with a couple of wire tails from any old Renault lying around, I think I have finally realised that the mooch around on the off-chance is a complete waste of time. Clio's of my 23 Year old Vintage, (even if they should they ever appear) head rapidly for the crusher to occupy the smallest bit of space, for the shortest amount of time before being turned into scrap.

Couple of new parts to fit, before a day is called!
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Had I been demonstrating today's run out in the Clio, I think a potential buyer would have been impressed with the free-revving poke it has up to 6000 revs, and on returning home to do the deal, its ticking over at idle like a gently purring sewing machine. No codes or EML lights on the trip out or back.

Haven't fitted the new knock sensor or the new O2 sensor yet, and the gubbins for the knock sensor connector wont arrive until sometime next week.

I'll keep those new bits in reserve for now. Its like the car is on a bit of a pre-season training. Drinking the right stuff (Vpower and Redex!) and being put through its paces, building up into some impressive sprints and recoveries and a bit of endurance work hopefully to return to a level of fitness to sustain it for the season! Not sure it needs the new bits...just a bit more training!

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One promising training run after another.

Swopped the pre-cat O2 sensor, not for the brand new one but another which I removed when I did the Front downpipe and the cat a couple of years back.

Not a single hesitation, stutter, code thrown up or engine management light on, and a distinctly "normal feel". on the drive.

Time to end the tinkering and start the moving on process...taxing and insuring a surplus car is not what bargain basement motoring is about!

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Well done Neil, but as you suggest with a clean bill of health I might be tempted to leave well alone and supply the parts to the new owner!! :)
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Thanks Mick. The moving it on bit is the bit I find the hardest. Not in terms of the wrench of parting, but in the process. The last "sale" of any substance for me was my Triumph GT6 for a paltry £750 back in 1983 from an advert in the motoring Section of the Edinburgh Evening News! Virtually every car since that point made its final journey at scrapyard prices! Convenient and little hassle!

So what is the market for a 2003 1.2 16V Clio with 86,000 miles on the Clock and a full MOT in gorgeous Nautilus Blue Metallic (TED48)

It's in a better state now than when I paid 6 Bottles of Wine for it in 2017 when it had spent months if not years immobile under a tree, no MOT, and some doubt as to whether it would actually start go and stop!

It would be nice to pass it on so someone who can get some enjoyment and reliable motoring out of it, and there could be Clio enthusiasts out there with a nostalgia for the VA VA Voom, or Michelle and Papa days!

Not really that concerned about the £sd, after all I probably got a fair deal when I first acquired it! There could be some local interest which I would prefer, but I don't really fancy the autotrader/gumtree/ebay shenanigans, and probably even less the "We buy any Car...etc" market. Word of mouth, advert in the Newsagents window more my kind of thing!

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My 16 year old tech protegé is preparing for her driving life when she is 17 in November. She already has her grandad's Nissan Note to become her daily but it is an auto and we all think she should learn on a manual and then take up using the Note once she passes her test. So that being the case we are looking at possible scenarios, one of which was to buy a cheap but presentable manual for her to learn in and then move it on if she selects the Note over it. A second scenario was to take professional lessons in a manual and then drive her Note in due course and the third was to sell the note which should return sensible money and buy a decent manual with that. I wonder if your Clio might be an ideal candidate for the first scenario? :)
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