PaulC5 wrote: 06 Nov 2025, 12:13
From above ev are around 10% heavier so not insignificant. I also often notice they are accelerated a lot faster than petrol/diesel, we have many roundabouts near us with 2 lanes and they seem to often overtake going round them and squeeze in leaving, never mind on the straight bits. I do not even bother trying to compete in the race.
Many cars now look quite ugly, no idea where the designers are being trained, I was saying this to Mrs P as we walked passed a Defender.
I think you are confusing EVs with BMW drivers
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new. (Albert Einstein)
Gibbo2286 wrote: 06 Nov 2025, 13:14
Road damage from EV passenger cars is really a non argument while we have 44 tonne trucks pounding them day and night.
By that metric you could say that road damage by ICE cars is a non argument too but they are taxed and heavily so in some cases. ICE drivers also pay significant tax on the fuel so it just doesn't make sense!! I currently pay over £700 a year for running my daily driver and my hobby classic not including fuel taxes. I am merely suggesting that EV drivers should pay their fair share!!
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure!
I used to ride on two wheels, but now I need all four!
myglaren wrote: 06 Nov 2025, 13:26
I presume that it is more to do with the lost revenue on fuel for EVs.
Yes I agree Steve, I'm sure that is the economic issue behind the idea. My view is simply that in my mind it helps to redress the unfair car tax situation which currently exists. That is why I mentioned both horses and bikes as they benefit from the infrastructure without contributing.
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure!
I used to ride on two wheels, but now I need all four!
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A true national treasure, Quentin brought the joy of motoring, from combustion to electric, into our living rooms.
He helped shape the original Top Gear as one of its first hosts, working alongside Jeremy Clarkson and the team who took the pioneering show global. He went on to front Fifth Gear and still holds the dubious honour of Strictly Come Dancing’s lowest score in history.
Through his FairFuel campaign, Quentin saved UK consumers a fortune by helping to freeze fuel duty. Over £100b in fresh taxation was prevented by the campaign, a real consumer win by a true consumer champion. He also created and presented much-loved programmes such as Britain’s Worst Drivers and The Cars the Star.
Long before it was fashionable, he championed the GM EV1 and the promise of electric cars, proving he was always ahead of the curve.
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Much-loved husband to Michaela, devoted father to Mercedes, Max and Mini, and cherished grandfather to Saskia, Xander & Roxana. Quentin will be deeply missed by his family, friends, and all who knew him personally and professionally.
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I did enjoy Count Quentula (as I think Jeremy Claxxon once referred to him) from back in the Top Gear v1.0 days. They were just starting to liven up Top Gear a little in those days and he was part of that. Never saw much of him since then though
Gibbo2286 wrote: 06 Nov 2025, 13:14... by brake pads lasting often to 100 thousand miles.
My father did nearly all his slowing down by changing down the gears. He expected the brake shoes to last the lifetime of the car.
I was never able to convince him that changing brake shoes occasionally would be a lot cheaper than a new clutch or, heaven forfend, a replacement gearbox. He was lucky though (and I suppose proved correct) and never had to get those changed in any of the cars I knew about.
As I get older I think a lot about the hereafter - I go into a room and then wonder what I'm here after.
Inside every old person is a young person wondering what the hell happened.
"Trying is the first step towards failure" ~ Homer J Simpson
The rear brake shoes on my pick up truck still look virtually new after well over 150k miles...... though I think that has more to do with the fact the rear brakes are rarely applied in normal use
Just watched that all through Mick, in one part he says "People fixated on one technology." I think that's actually him, he's been doing videos for a couple of years now all trying to find and promote the negatives of going electric.
Anyone who has never made a mistake has never tried anything new. (Albert Einstein)
