C4 Grand Picasso key programming with diagbox

[Gousteau]

Hi from Finland,
Bought C4 Grand Picasso 2007 for our family second car. Seller had only one key for it and therefore I purchased an extra key fob from aliexpress. Thought that I could program it with Diagbox 7.57 which I have. Now I noticed that seller (or some of the owners before him) also jad lost PIN code card for key programming.
I contacted local Finnish Citroen representative to get the pin but they did not want to give it (they propably want to sell a programmed key with good profit).
Is It possible that someone here could help me to get the PIN using our vehicle VIN VF7**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
Would be very thankful for any help.

[mickthemaverick]

The forum does not have access to the live database at the moment but there may be a member who can help if they see your post.

[Gousteau]

Thanks for reply mick. Hope so too.

[wheeler]

Unfortunately PIN & key numbers are heavily restricted by Stelantis now, In the past anyone with a dealer login could access them however due to them being available all over ebay many years ago there is now only a single login per dealer that can access them.

Your best bet would be to contact a different dealer.

[Gousteau]

Ok, I see. Actually, I thought first that I could read out Pin with Diagbox from BSI. But this might not be possible.

[Paul-R]

Diagbox can't extract the PIN code from the car but some (most?) high end diagnostic machines can. My Xtool D8W can read the code from my 2015 Pug 308 but failed on my brother's 2012 Pug 508 so it may be a long search.

If the diagnostic reader does succeed in retrieving the code then it almost certainly would possess the ability to code the new key fob in. Note that ALL keys that you want to use (even currently working ones) must be coded in at the same time. You can't just add an extra key in with this process.

[Gousteau]

Thanks Paul.
I also noticed that Diagbox is not capable of retrieving pin as I tried it. Also I think it is not worth purchasing a new diagnostic tool just for key coding as I'm quite sure Diagbox will be enough for me othervise. I don't think that it would be that expensive even if I should let a Finnish Citroen representative to code the key. I just thought that I could do it myself if only I had the pin.
And yes, I know that all keys must be coded at the same time.

[wheeler]

I don't think that it would be that expensive even if I should let a Finnish Citroen representative to code the key.

Main dealers may be reluctant to attempt to program non genuine keys, there is also the possibility you get a dud or incompatible key, i would imagine the dealer will still charge you regardless of the success of programming.

[Gousteau]

wheeler yes. In fact this does not to be a problem at least to this dealer.