FORD Ka 2011 1.3 TDCi EGR FAULT

[Skull]

My Daughter's car has started playing up with EML showing @ 111,517 miles. No previous problems in the last 9 years.

Skull’s EML ON

So far i've stripped out battery/tray/ECU and 3 T20 bolts on the end of the ERG solenoid but it wouldn't separate, a look at access to remove the EGR completely for cleaning reveals horrendous access that prompted me to re-assemble

Skull’s EGR - viewed through subframe

I borrowed a code reader and P0401 appears:

Skull’s Code Reader

I cleared the codes @ 111,545 miles and gave it a hard drive, with instructions to do likewise, that was about 50 miles ago but a text message tonight - the light has returned.

A search of the internet resulted in no guides to removing the EGR - the most similar I found was a 2005 Fiat Panda on youtube.
EDIT:PANDA

A call to Evans Halshaw responded with a “we only service cars we don’t repair them”

The main problem I have, is her requirement to have a car as she lives in a small village with no bus service and works 5/6 days a week, so off-road time is critical.

Initial thoughts are to try a fuel additive/cleaner to add on the next re-fuel as that seems the easiest route to try.

I'm reluctant to try the aerosol cleaner method in the air inlet because the distance/route between an access point and the EGR area is too extended.

Any recommendations for a diesel fuel additive that you have tried with some success

[mickthemaverick]

When I had EGR issues on the C5 I tried Wynns and Lucas EGR cleaners and neither made much difference. I was then recommended JLM egr cleaner which proved very good indeed, I treated the system twice a week apart and had no further trouble right up to selling the car. I would say it is not cheap though, I think I paid about £45 for it!!

EDIT: I just had a look and this is the stuff but it is even dearer now!!

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/226575670816 ... R-Kl1tWkZQ

[Skull]

Cheers Mick

Anyone have anything cheaper

[bobins]

I've heard of people using Mr Muscle spray foam oven cleaner on EGRs and suchlike. Can't vouch for its effectiveness though.

[Skull]

Yes Bobbins IF I can remove it off the car then something like that or Cillit-Bang should do the trick with a good scrubbing ...

[RichardW]

Some info here: https://www.fiatforum.com/threads/500-1 ... ix.459518/

[bobins]

I think the Mr Muscle spray is used with the EGR in-situ, you just have to get access to one end of it. Most people just start the car once the cleaner has done its thing and cross their fingers.

[Skull]

Thanks RichardW similar code/access problems by the sound of it - wouldn’t hurt to take a peek before I start the job

[Skull]

Cheers Bobins I’ll have another look around you tube as it rings a bell not sure I’m that brave on someone else’s car though

[RichardW]

Can you get live data on the scanner? Might give a pointer as to whether it is the DPF sensor, or blockage in the EGR pipe. Probably not an EGR fault, as I would expect this to flag a position fault on the EGR valve.

[Skull]

FOR REFERENCE

North East Motor Salvage LTD

[Skull]

Can you get live data on the scanner?

I have some photos of screenshots but don't have regular access to the car - just when it needs fixing

It's my first time using a code reader so I don't understand much ...

Codes

Codes

Codes

After I cleared codes ….

Code cleared

Note : MIL was off , on engine restart despite the reading …for about 50 miles

Code cleared

Code cleared

If they are any help RichardW?

[Skull]

When I had EGR issues on the C5 I tried Wynns and Lucas EGR cleaners and neither made much difference. I was then recommended JLM egr cleaner which proved very good indeed, I treated the system twice a week apart and had no further trouble right up to selling the car. I would say it is not cheap though, I think I paid about £45 for it!!

UPDATE

Light has stayed off for last 25 miles.
@ 111,688 today

JLM EXTREME

Added 0.5 Ltr to her tank (only holds 35 Ltrs) and topped up with 30 Ltrs of Shell V Power

[mickthemaverick]

Fingers crossed!

[Skull]

Fingers crossed!

Hasn't worked (yet) ....

EML reset twice over last 140 miles.

Now 111,800 miles and I've ordered the EGR gaskets, likely I will be removing the EGR for cleaning at the end of this week, looks a tricky access job, dreading it to be honest