RNEG Firmware or Software

[Rhothgar]

Hi Folks

This is my first foray into RTx stuff.

Is this system in SWMBO’s 3008 an RT6 unit please?

Looking at the photos and descriptions it appears so.

There are about 15 screens with different information on about the SW version.

What is the latest firmware/software that anyone has on here that would be willing to share it please?

I’ll do an internet search too in the meantime. There is no rush but I’d rather trust a forum member than a random site ie someone that has tested it beforehand.

The RTx has a 0943 Fault for FM2 aerial. I’ve not investigated that as yet but I suspect it’s either going to be the FM2 aerial or a broken wire in the tailgate.

Read through some posts about mirascripts and the like but will likely post back here before destroying the unit…

[GiveMeABreak]

1) Yes this is an RT6
2) I do NOT recommend you updating the firmware unless you have a reason or an issue requiring it. Reason being, the latest update (V2.86) can render the unit totally reset to factory defaults, that you cannot fix with a diagnostic tool. It would require reconfiguring at the dealer and that will involve diagnostic time of a minimum of £120 minimum.

My information suggests you can upgrade to version 2.80 though, but I would first follow the Part 'A' of the Mirascripts section of this guide: How to Replace the Internal MicroSD Card - RT6 for a backup of user settings in case you need them.

Again, entirely your choice, but if all is well I would leave it alone. Let me know if you require the 2.80 Firmware.

[Rhothgar]

OK. Sound advice Marc. Thank you.

Can the maps be updated separately?

The missus was looking at something on Ebay for £80 the other week. I thought it was map updates but perhaps it was a reprogramming / firmware update service. I’ll have to ask her.

Sounds like it probably would be a firmware update and they would take responsibility for it working OK afterward maybe.

I’m just guessing. I’ll get the facts.

[GiveMeABreak]

Maps can be updated separately and there is no issue there.

Be careful what you are buying off that place - £80? for what? Firmware is free but cowboys will sell you anything.

[shanehill1]

i see this is old thread but i have a 2013 3008 with a rneg radio that intermittently restarts itself
rneg 2.86.b.1 could i get an update for the firmware supplied or tell me were to go please?

[GiveMeABreak]

@shanehill1: There is NO later firmware. This won't solve your problem. It's likely the MicroSD card inside the unit has failed or is failing.

Whilst you still have access to the system, I strongly suggest you take a back up of the user settings before the card completely fails and you have no access to it.
This way if you attempt to replace the Internal MicorSD card, you will be able to restore your user settings afterwards.

The complete guide on replacement is here: How to Replace the Internal MicroSD Card - RT6

But for now, just follow Part A of the Mirascripts section to back up your settings.

You can follow the rest of the guide should you wish to replace the MicroSD card and reinstall the operating system.

[shanehill1]

Thanks very much that sounds very much possible, will have to try this fix

[shanehill1]

is there any way to just ghost the old microsd to a new micrsd?

[GiveMeABreak]

Well no.... as all you would be doing is copying the faulty data and any corrupt files over to the new card.

The whole process of replacing the car is not only a new card, but the firmware partitions the card and installs the operating system onto the relevant partitions etc. Then if you have followed part 'A' of the guide you can, if necessary restore the user files back afterwards.

[Rhothgar]

Happy New Year.

I am finally revisiting this now I have a little bit of time spare.

Some of the matter comments make me wonder if the random restarting of the unit is generating this 0952 code. I checked the Think report and there is no prefix but having spoken with my diagnostics mate we think it can be a CAN fault 0952 for the FM2 aerial.

That’s likely to be a wiring issue in the tailgate perhaps.

Maybe I should get the microSD sorted and see if that corrects anything.

Marc. I am sure you kindly posted wiring and location diagrams somewhere for me prior but cannot find them. I’ll have to search later on a PC.

I read one of your other posts where you advised the OP to be a dealer CD 9679240380 for £3.22. That was for a MyWay unit which I inderstand is the RNEG unit.

Is there a part number available for the dealer CD for the RT6 please, Marc? I am guessing it is the same as the above.

Her RT6 keeps intermittently asking for the Navigation CD which we don’t have.

EDIT. Also found another diag report for the car which states B952 which is short circuit to ground. Could this be rectified by a clean up of the BPGA fuse terminals?

And I follow the battery disconnection procedure presumably?

[GiveMeABreak]

The RT6 CD with Firmware Version 2.86 is part number: 9691894880, £17.95

[Rhothgar]

The RT6 CD with Firmware Version 2.86 is part number: 9691894880, £17.95

Thanks for that, Marc.

Finally got the CD this week from Peugeot. It has instructions on the packaging. Is it just a simple case of following that? I guess it is but my concern now is with the unit dropping out from time to time (not that regular but knowing my luck) I feel there is a distinct risk that if it switches itself off whilst doing the update that it will most certainly brick the unit.

Should I whip the unit out and do a visual inspection for dry joints on the PCB to see if I can find anything obvious? There is an invoice in the history file which shows it has had work done on it already.

Just wondering if I should backup and replace the microSD card before trying the update because that is one thing I have yet to get around to.

Also, once the update is done, should I retain the CD? Is it ever likely to ask for it again? Presumably the firmware is unlikely to be updated beyond 2.86?

Thanks in advance.

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so a warning here:

1) Your 3008 has CAN2004 electronic architecture, so updating to 2.86 can lead to issues requiring dealer intervention if it resets back to factory defaults and leaves the unit unconfigured ( and you can't do this yourself in Diagbox without online PSA server access, an account and paid tokens). So first what version of Firmware do you have on the unit already? If it has already been updated to V2.86, then the chances are much reduced. I strongly suggest you backup the user configuration files first using Part A of the Mirascripts section first in the:

How to Replace the Internal MicroSD Card - RT6 guide.

If the unit is glitchy now, I strongly suggest you use it as little as possible (especially any music or navigation functions), until you have completed the backup mentioned in (1) above. The more you use the system the more likely it is to degrade if the flash memory is nearing end of life and is running out of writable cells.

This is likely to be the cause of problems, so I wouldn't even bother checking the soldering - it's a high probability of MicroSD card pending failure or less likely a motherboard chip.

2) If you have an earlier version of firmware, let me know what version is already installed first.

3) Yes retain the CD safely as although there are no further upgrades for this system, it may be required again to install and partition the MicroSD card in future.

[Rhothgar]

It has 2.77 from memory. Definitely not 2.86. It does give the warning on the packaging thus:-

MANDATORY: Following this upgrade, if the previous software version wasn't 2.3x or 2.7x or 2.8x, an update of the radio navigation system calibrations have to be done using the diagnostic tool.

So does that mean, I am fine?

I probably should still get the mirascripts work out of the way first and secure a backup.

Are there any particular recommendations for a good brand of Class 10 8Gb microSD card? I note 16Gb is preferred.

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so 2.77 would suggest this should be fine, but yes, always do a backup so that the data and configuration can be restored after the updated firmware is applied if needed.

If replacing the MicroSD card, make sure you get a 16Gb version to allow for the increased map sizes of later map updates, make sure it's a Class 10 card.