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Ahh, another opportunity lost... Although it might be argued to the benefit of the Soviet Union...

And on the subject of one-off prototypes Neil, there's your namesake - Falcon ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_53

And having those lovely-sounding Maybach Diesel engines :)

At least this was a valuable test bed that helped development of the very successful and long-serving Class 47...
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Thanks Jim, random links led me to the "Kestrel" and its story. Follow it if you can...involves a bit of cross country running from 1975!

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Back in 1975 the young Falcon, was a young Harrier, and the Harriers took the train from Newcastle to Shiremoor to compete in the Sherman Cup. The rendezvous point was Newcastle Central Station at "The Electric Trains" at the eastern end of the station. I found a couple of photo's of the electric trains bit from the Armstrong Trust Railway Photographic Collection. Further googling of the collection, took me to a blog which came up with this anecdote on the Railway photographer Ian S Carr
…I first met Ian at a Durham University Railway Society meeting in New Elvet, Durham. I was then about 15 years old and Ian was showing his photographs in the lecture hall, however the episcope (print projector) had broken down, so he laid out all the photographs across the hall and talked us through them individually. I admired one in particular of the diesel prototype 'Kestrel' crossing Durham viaduct. Unprompted he gave me the print to take home.
Hence yesterdays Kestrel feature on the thread. :-D The running bit is in the spoiler...fascinating for me as a memory...bit of local history of the Sherman Cup!.
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The Running bit....mostly a tangental aside but bear with me!
The Sherman Cup...New York 1975. Yes not the big Apple, but an Area known as New York in North Tyneside near Shiremoor, and a local Harrier League Race with a tradition back to the late 40's. The detail is here but I'll give you a shortish quote for a flavour...
After World War 2, the Northumberland & Durham Paperchase League committee were under pressure to organise an `all-out` race, rather than the handicap league runs, in order to prepare clubs for championship races. Also, an attempt was to make courses `all country` with no road sections. The solution came in the form of a new race the `Sherman Cup`, donated by Sherman Pools. The competition was designed to show a club`s overall strength. With three to count, the result was decided on a club`s aggregate points over three races, all starting at the same time, the youths ran 1 lap (3 miles), the juniors 2 laps and the seniors 3 laps equating to the favoured championship distance of 9 miles. The first of these mob runs was in January 1949 and after `the Morpeth` on New Years` Day, the Sherman Cup for male runners only was to become the second fixture of the year.
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CitroJim wrote: 13 Jun 2024, 06:56 ...on the subject of one-off prototypes Neil, there's your namesake - Falcon ;)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_53
Thanks Jim

Ahh the onerous task of reading a wikipedia article and the fading art of reading...when the modern world craves tik tok and youtube.

Then again just occasionally you tube does provide a resource to preserve and make available some long forgotten and charming things which used to be called "films", in the delightful accents of the time, cheery soundtracks, and Richard Baker doing the narration. Lo and behold..its even in colour, and it's an official film from Hawker Siddeley about the Brush Prototype "Falcon"

I know your aversion to youtube, but give it a go Jim and everyone else, its just over 5 minutes long and if I call it a "short film" rather than a "vid" it shouldn't be too painful. :-D



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Thanks Neil, that's really appreciated :D Five minutes I might just manage, given the subject matter ;)
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One thing I noticed in the film was its trials in Derbyshire. It crosses the Monsal Viaduct before entering a tunnel. The view is from the top of the hill where there is a pub/cafe and a carpark with an iconic scenic view. The railway now is a cycle/walking route the Monsal trail, and exceedingly popular and well used.
2'35&quot;  into the film The Monsal Viaduct<br />aka the Headstone Viaduct
2'35" into the film The Monsal Viaduct
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NewcastleFalcon wrote: 14 Jun 2024, 09:18 It crosses the Monsall Viaduct before entering a tunnel. The view is from the top of the hill where there is a pub/cafe and a carpark with an iconic scenic view. The railway now is a cycle/walking route the Monsall trail, end exceedingly popular and well used.
The Monsall Trail is on my bucket list to run one of these days Neil. It gets some very good reports from those who have...
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I found some more Falcons Neil...

Steamy ones this time ;)

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CitroJim wrote: 15 Jun 2024, 06:24 I found some more Falcons Neil...
Steamy ones this time ;)
I see Jim. Original Product of the Falcon Works Loughborough, and a new replica. The Falcon Works subsequently taken over by Brush.

Sir Haydn is a narrow gauge steam locomotive, built by Hughes's Locomotive & Tramway Engine Works (later known as the Falcon Works), Loughborough in 1878. It operated on the Corris Railway in Wales, until closure in 1948, and since 1951 has operated on the nearby Talyllyn Railway. It has carried the operating number 3 under four successive owners.

Number 10 a new "Falcon Works" replica built by Alan Keef Ltd and runs on the Corris Railway.
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Just for good measure :-D
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That's fantastic Neil :D Thanks!
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CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 06:08 That's fantastic Neil :D Thanks!
The Brush Falcon Statue (wiki commons image) was taken in 2006 at the Crich National Tramway Museum about 6 miles from Matlock in Derbyshire. Never been there but very probably a nice place to stop off at.

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That's a place I'd love to visit 😊
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CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 09:48 That's a place I'd love to visit 😊
That was on the agenda on the last day of the Wales Wander!! :-D
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mickthemaverick wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 10:05
CitroJim wrote: 16 Jun 2024, 09:48 That's a place I'd love to visit 😊
That was on the agenda on the last day of the Wales Wander!! :-D
:cry: :cry: Still very unhappy and devastated the WW could not happen :(

One day maybe; never say never but it's currently looking very unlikely :(
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Round about this time last year, the June Jolly Boys visited the World's finest trainspotting viewpoint in Wharton Park high above Durham Station, the Viaduct and the City.

A reminder
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