1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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Hi, this is my first post. On my way back home my Berlingo suddenly is underpowered and the engine bay is much louder. Although the sound seems like it's coming from the turbo and the turbo shaft has quite a bit of play, and the blades have seen some damage, I don't see a fault code for it. I found a leaking injector and I cleaned it, the same. There was a fault P1461 then I replaced the egr, still the same. So I got myself Diagbox, and P1461 did clear but can't see why it's making the noise. Is a turbo replacement unavoidable? Here's some video and live data, any help is appreciated.

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Fault code present: F5FF, C98B, C98F, F905
Live data when the engine running:
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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Here's a little more detail on the fault:
Fault Code: P1461
Description of Fault: Electric EGR valve position copy signal: Difference between the stops programmed at long-term. Drift of more than 14 % in the position of the EGR valve bottom stop relative to that programmed during initialisation of the first ever powerlatch (between key cut-off and ECU going to sleep).
Conditions of activation of the diagnostics - Consult the associated contexts for the Pcode forwarding conditions:
- Coolant temperature between 10°C and 100°C
- Battery voltage between 10 and 15 V
Conditions for Fault to clear:
  • 5 starts with driving
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active: -
Symptoms:
  • Engine hesitating, cutting out
  • Smoke from the exhaust
  • Lack of power
Suspect Areas:
  • Electrical harness
  • Connector
  • Electric exhaust gas recycling valve
  • Engine ECU ( software)
C98B Front left sidelamp fault: Open circuit
C98F Front left foglamp fault: Open circuit
F5FF Unexpected re-initialisation fault coming from the BSI: Not characterised
F905: Left-hand analogue auxiliary audio input 1 fault: Not characterised
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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That turbo is stuffed....
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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I agree, I don't think these fault codes are going to help after watching that video....
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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Wow!! Just be happy nothing has snapped off and coursed more damage. That turbo is shot!!
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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Thanks everyone! I couldn't take off the undertray to fix it so I eventually sent it to the mechanic. it's indeed a bad turbo and that's £750 for the job. From what I have googled I thought it would be like £1300, but still, it's a lot of money
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Re: 1.6 HDI underpowered and turbo noise

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Could of been worse if not sorted in time, you were lucky there
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