Peugeot 207 1.4hdi low additive ...

[Huskyxantia]

Hello all.

I need to know some stuff regarding a 207 1.4hdi
What to look out for , wheel bearings suspension stuff oh and where is the diesel additive bag located and how do you change it, many thanks . Oh .. would you buy one ? But the most important thing is about the additive bag location

[Huskyxantia]

Should of called this wheres the fap bag ... how to change it and what type , but fap bag is sounding wrong .. blame psa not me lol

[GiveMeABreak]

I don't have your VIN for this one, pop it up and I'll advise as to correct additive.

[Huskyxantia]

I don't have your VIN for this one, pop it up and I'll advise as to correct additive.

Will do Marc soon as i get the logbook or look at the car its sons girl friends car got it today i plugged it in and it came up with the fap was almost empty, in layman's terms that is, so we know the next thing it will do .

[Huskyxantia]

Hi Marc
At last heres the vin number VF3**************[VIN obfuscated, can be read by forum staff]
also which coolant should be used . Many thanks.

[GiveMeABreak]

Ok, so this 207 has a Pouch system and it uses Powerflex Additive for the build date which is 12436.

Coolant: Freecor DSC Fluid ready for use and Freecor DSC Antifreeze are used by PSA.

[Huskyxantia]

Many thanks Marc

[Huskyxantia]

So running a quick scan this little car came up with
P050B
P2563
P0500
P1445

[GiveMeABreak]

Here you go:

Fault Code:	P050B
Description of Fault:	Starting monitoring: Starting time too long. Time between activation of the starter and starting of the engine too long. Conditions of activation of the diagnostics: Under starting.
Conditions for Fault to clear:	Engine started from cold 10 times in succession
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	-
Symptoms:	Starting problem
Suspect Areas:	Pre-post heating relay Pre-heat glow plugs Electrical harnesses Connectors

Fault Code:	P2563
Description of Fault:	Turbocharger: Position incorrect in relation to the setting, too much turbo. The position measured is less than the reference by more than 20 % for 4 seconds. The following conditions have to be met: - Engine speed above 1500 rpm - Engine torque higher than 75Nm
Conditions for Fault to clear:	Driving for 5 minutes
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	-
Symptoms:	Noise Slightly higher fuel consumption
Suspect Areas:	Turbocharger Turbocharger fixed geometry control electrovalve Turbocharger fixed geometry position repeat sensor Electrical harnesses Connectors Clogging of the vacuum circuit

Fault Code:	P0500
Description of Fault:	Intersystems CAN: Speed information incorrect or absent. Information not received or received invalid by the engine management ECU on the CAN.
Conditions for Fault to clear:	Driving for 5 minutes
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	Irreversible deactivation of the vehicle cruise control (Need to switch the ignition off and then on, in order to make the function available again). Irreversible deactivation of the vehicle speed limiter (Need to switch the ignition off and then on, in order to make the function available again). Irreversible deactivation of the vehicle speed curbing function (Need to switch the ignition off and then on, in order to make the function available again).
Symptoms:	Lack of power Jerking/stalling The vehicle speed is no longer displayed on the instrument panel
Suspect Areas:	Engine ECU Intersystem CAN network

Fault Code:	P1445
Description of Fault:	Additive adding: The quantity of additive injected into the particle emission filter has exceeded the maximum threshold; The particulate emission filter must be changed. The volume free in the particle filter is not sufficiently large. Necessary to replace the particle filter at the next service interval.
Conditions for Fault to clear:	-
Downgrade Modes whilst Fault is active:	-
Symptoms:	No effects immediately perceptible to the customer
Suspect Areas:	Particle emission filter at the end of its service life

[Huskyxantia]

Another situation. Not this car but another 207 1.4hdi.
Its just had the engine light come on following advice from a mechanic stating it needs new additive and glow plugs. But the owner claims its starting normal ? We all have different versions of normal, it runs fine and no smoke . So i think the additive has been used 132 thousand miles. The dpf could be full ? The egr blocking ? And its still running normal ? Any thoughts ? Worth 2k ?

[GiveMeABreak]

HDIs really only use the glow plugs for starting in very cold temperatures, and, where a particle filter is fitted, to assist with post heating for regeneration when commanded by the engine ECU.

The additive would certainly need topping up at this mileage if not already done so. Not only that, but the DPF would be near end of service life given this mileage. So factor that in as it will need removing and replacing or deep cleaned and diagnostics to inform the engine ECU of a change of the DPF when done.

[Huskyxantia]

My thoughts too regarding the dpf , i still think that 2k for a 13/14 year old car with the dpf almost dead is a tad to much. If the deep clean works its a cheaper fix.

[Huskyxantia]

Well good price on the additive bag just over 50£

[Huskyxantia]

How much oil do these little 1.4hdi hold 3.5 Litres ?

[GiveMeABreak]

Engine Oil? If so:

Oil capacity without replacement of the filter cartridge	3,25 litres
Oil capacity with replacement of the filter cartridge	3,75 litres
Capacity between minimum and maximum on the oil gauge	1,5 litre